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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well my dad has a friend that goes to MMI and is going through the buell program right now, and he informed me that there is a NEW belt in the works to replace the old one. Apparently the current belt is not up to the task of the 1125 (suprise lol) and is not designed to be bent and put under the tension that the idler pulley puts on it and is what causes the belts to break frequently (im on 3) so there is a type of heavy duty serpentine belt in the works....

just passin on the info...anyone else here bout this??

Jake
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have not heard about that. I think if Harley is doing any R & D is being done on buells it should be on the stator problem.
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07xb12ss
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ride pretty hard, wheelie often, and don't have belt guards on and I'm just under 19,000 miles with my original.

Do they break a lot?
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they tend to break alot for some, others are lucky...im on my 3rd belt in 18k miles....i think chameleon is on like his 6th belt or somethin...

Jake
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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ride pretty hard myself and as of yet, no problems and I have over 9000 mile on her right now. Though, I don't do wheelies (well, on purpose anyway)
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Jules
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's odd.. I'd be surprised if HD were doing any development work for Buells - why would they?

I'm not saying it's not happening, just that it seems a bit odd.

I also thing belt failures are pretty infrequent, certainly anecdotal evidence seems to indicate that - mine's like new and I ride lile a complete tit!

It's holding up better than a chain would have at this mileage.
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Jdugger
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 05:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd have to guess that's pretty outdated information.

It would have been accurate circa 2007, as a new belt technology DID come out around the time of the 1125r.
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Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Absolute BS. The belt was completely designed to be used in a serpentine manner, definitely can handle the power, and absolutely is designed for the tension. In fact the belt manufacturer dictated the tension.
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's the theoretical limit for HP on the belt, ie; how much is too much before it will snap?
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There doesn't seem to be any issue with belts and it also seems like any belts problems are isolated with certain people, which points to the user.

If HD is going to ignore the stators, do you really think they are going to plunge money towards a non-issue? DOn't think so.
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know a guy who knows a guy that says this other guy's full of it.

18,000 miles on my original belt.
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Ccryder
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

39,000 and counting on the original (miles).
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can't be bent????
I'm in trouble.





I'm riding THAT belt, got over 7k miles on it so far.
My current spare is a belt I burnt .110" off the back with a frozen idler that lives in the same place under my seat.
Hope it works if I ever need it.

Zack

BTW - that belt lived under my seat from March to May of 2009 IIRC, 2 months, then I put it on Loretta.
It was sent from Buell thru Court as a test - passing with Flying Colors so far.

(Message edited by zac4mac on September 04, 2010)
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ya i know it sounds like bs, and i was just passin on what i heard guys, and he's and HD guy so he probably just misunderstood the instructor or somethin...IDK but FWIW i figured id share...

Jake
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Court
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The information is accurate.

The belt has gone through some improvements over the years and is fully up to snuff for all intended purposes.

In addition . . . HD has much more to worry about at present.
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Zacks
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In addition . . . HD has much more to worry about at present.
Yeah, like getting wage concessions from the rank and file by threatening to move operations out of Milwaukee. On the week before labor day too.
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Court
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They got the wage concessions and more. Unions have become a laughing stock to HD execs. They may not say it publicly but they have them in a position where they can get anything they want.
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Spank
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...even more so now with non-union Buell gone!
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Court
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Non-union Buell was inconsequential. Harley has 5x as many folks in motor clothes than Buell had employees.

The union employees COULD have learned something from Buell.

They didn't and are now voiceless serfs to Wandell. They'll do whatever they are told to do.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I need a better belt



And I think I have Speedo problems too.
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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wait! MMI thats the place that said that HD cylinders never crack,
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