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Rocketronnl
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 06:30 pm: | 
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btw,we're never gonna beat Valentino Rossi(even if he is on his moped),so wtf we're talking about,fun @ the track/road is the only thing that counts.......
(Message edited by rocketron.nl on August 28, 2010) |
Cowboytutt
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 06:36 pm: |
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I've been very impressed with Twin Motorcycles and their relentless pursuit of power in the bikes we love. Any competition only leads to more product development and thats a good thing for us!
My stacks are in the mail and I'm hoping to do a "before and after" dyno run with my Barker and Erik Buell Racing ECM.
-Tutt |
Mike1125r
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 08:05 pm: |
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The 1190 makes 185 rwhp on a dynojet. That means rear wheel horsepower as advertised on erik buell racings website. 1190 specs http://www.erikbuellracing.com/motorcycles/1190RR/ |
Dvy_bby9
| | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 12:01 am: |
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I was going to say if some of the people on here would just read on the Eric Buell Racing site... |
Buellishness
| | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 01:54 am: |
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Timing and AFR those are the only two things that add HP in tuning. When you combine those two things modifying the exhaust or the intake you can manipulate the profile of the power out put of the motor. All things equal 1125cc does not put out more power than 1190cc. displacement and compression.
easyrider-
you have your own interpretation of what optimum power is with this motor and your modification of how the engine breaths.
what is offensive is the way you put your products out there. you portray everything else as inferior often times attacking the validity of other products even Erik Buell Racing. I love and respect what you do with buells and your enthusiasm for the brand. |
Buellishness
| | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 02:21 am: |
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Buell 1125 stage 2 kit 160 HP and 125 NM of Torque 0,00 - Add to cart
In this article: www.twinmotorcycles.nl/artikelen.asp
You can follow the progress of the development of our Stage 2 kit. We are developing at the moment for the 1125.
It will be a bold on kit. It will make 160 HP and 125 NM of Torque. We are testing all the parts at Bonneville at the salt flats.
Our Goal is to keep the stock cylinders no big bore so it is way cheaper to develop and be competitive on the race track.
- heads done (no flowing) only better parts (we trade the old ones or sell new)
- new pistons
- new cams
- new rods and bolts
- free fully programmed ECM for this setup
We will develop a new complete exhaust system, we have to see becuase of all the sound rules on the track that are getting heavier how that will work out
and we will complete it with a ECM
questions?
heads done not flowing. what does that mean you sound vague? please expound on your head job?
pistons? are you raising compression?
cams? are you increasing lift=more air flow? ( not adding power changing where its made!)
bolts and rods? whats wrong with the oem? are you increasing rev limiter with your tune?
if im going to go through the trouble to change most of the rotating mass in my engine is this going to be balanced and to what specs. I am assuming you are trying to lighten the rotating mass so you can spin it at a higher rate or else why do it. other than to sell parts or you think there is a problem with the oem parts.
cams are a tuning device and not a power adder so you must be trying to target a paticular consumer. post up some dyno runs contrasting a stock profile to your cammed profile. I am a potential customer and would like educated as to where you are adjusting your power with a cam swap. |
Avalaugh
| | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 06:52 am: |
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I have found Erik Buell Racing to be very helpful, and also easyrider + team are very helpful. Remember that Easy's crew's 1st language is not english so some things may come off a bit short but that is not how it's intended.
Both company's have done more for Buell's than HD ever did, keep up all the great work guys, and i hope people will stop with the small talk, it's just not nice !!! |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 10:28 am: |
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So fresno you say erik is talking bullshit or MCS
Neither. I think we know where the BS is coming from.
I hope everyone sees this thread for its real intention.
(Message edited by fresnobuell on August 28, 2010) |
Xoptimizedrsx
| | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 01:07 pm: |
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my 2 cents... don't bash the creator (Eric Buell). This buell thats being reworked and questioned (1190) was on the drawing board many years ago. you don't think he has already went down these paths?
To raise hp over a certain point(stock bikes) you have to add displacement and rpm. fixed rules of nature.
Here is a simple way to look at it.
displacement + compression + rpm = HP&Tq
bigger numbers = bigger results thats the cold hard facts.
1+1=2/tune level (100% spot on fuel (results 2))
get the tune wrong you get less than 2 as a output result.
with out adding to displacement you cant get very far. then in this case 1+1=2 and two would be the perfect max value you can achieve on a perfect day. which doesn't exist outside a lab.
my 2 cents |
Easyrider
| | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 05:09 pm: |
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Wow interesting topic
it's all about the 1190 streetversion discussion
in the articles i get 2 different media companys stated the same information and 1 off them intervieuwd EB they say it is ā 1190 bore, with 185 bhp. The article was about, beeing loose from the HD company and the future of Buell and the 1190 version
i Am going to sniff some more SALT |
Dannybuell
| | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 07:33 pm: |
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Easyrider - news with pictures please.
We are pulling for your team. |
Buellishness
| | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 10:46 pm: |
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are you freaking serious!!!! look at Erik Buell Racing website he post the numbers of the bikes with rear wheel horsepower. 185 1190 and a 175 1125 motor
easy- get real!!! your mods dont come close to making the power Erik Buell Racing does. one better than that Erik Buell Racing engineered the motor that you try to make better.
I dont know which article you are talking about but if it the magazine with the yellow buell that they call the barracuda that has a 1125 motor in it. you may have to actually read the article instead of looking at the pictures.
either way Erik Buell Racing post there number on there web site and they are more than what you are "claiming"
I had a few questions earlier on your mods do you think you could help me out with answering them. |
Buellishness
| | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 10:54 pm: |
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http://www.erikbuellracing.com/motorcycles/1190RR/
http://www.erikbuellracing.com/race-bike.htm
hear you go check this out! |
D_adams
| | Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 11:29 pm: |
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Interesting. I never actually looked at their 1125r race bike power numbers. 140+ hp and 80 ft/lbs and that was with the race pipe. Its unreal to think that 2 of mine almost hit that (138/83) without a proper tune on their dyno. Very nifty bit of info. |
Buellishness
| | Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 12:17 am: |
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D_adams
your pipes were some of the best tested |
Easyrider
| | Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 01:24 am: |
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Article has new pictures added. |
Dannybuell
| | Posted on Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 02:00 am: |
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Those pictures are great.
What a great adventure.
Best wishes! |
Jens
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 11:10 am: |
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We brought this spring the 1190 RR-B to Assen (where it is damn easy to kick our ass just by seating an Assen specialist on the bike) but nothing happend......
So welcome to do that at the Biketoberfest.
About HP, the Erik Buell Racing 1190 RR-B was good enough last weekend to fight BMW S 1000 RR and other IL-4 Superbikes. And Harald and the bike took another victory. By the way without any electronic like launch-, traction-, and (biggest problem) wheelycontrol.
There is nearly no other V-twin out there what could go fast without electronic help, the Erik Buell Racing bikes can....
Laptimes donīt lie, most dynos do.
Need more HP to impress your friends with a dynochart? Use NOS, worked wonderful on Craigs 1125R we used for the icespeedrecord.
Meanwhile: Itīs the result what counts not the talk.
(Message edited by Jens on August 31, 2010) |
Xoptimizedrsx
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 04:23 pm: |
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copied directly from Erik Buell Racing.
pretty sure it states dynojet rear wheel HP no bhp at crank as suggested in many post. Therefore 160hp does not equal 185hp sunoco plain gas. I know they have already surpassed these numbers though. I got that info from a little bird on facebook. It's also posted here by ?...
Type: 72˚ V-Twin, 4-Stroke, 4-valve DOHC FF valvetrain
Displacement: 1190 cc
Bore and Stroke: 106 x 67.5
Compression Ratio: 14.25:1
Heads: CNC ported
Valves: Titanium, 42.0mm intake, 35.4 mm exhaust
Power: 185 RWHP @11,500 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel)
Torque: 93.0 Ft-lbf @ 9,500 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel)
Piston: Forged alloy slipper type
Rod: Forged H-beam high strength alloy steel
Crankshaft: Lightweight forged steel
Fuel System: IDS Technology DDFI 3 electronic fuel injection and engine management system, fully programmable, 61mm throttle bodies, dual injector with showerhead, PWM fuel pump
Exhaust: Titanium ultralight 2 into 1 system.
Clutch: Multiplate Slipper
Primary Drive: Straight cut gear, 1.806 ratio
edited; To see the rest go to Erik Buell Racing for full details.
while there go shopping for stuff... |
Xoptimizedrsx
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 04:30 pm: |
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The 1125RR version
(same as above.)
Engine
Type: 72˚ V-Twin, 4-Stroke, 4-valve DOHC FF valvetrain
Displacement: 1126 cc
Bore and Stroke: 103 x 67.5
Compression Ratio: 14.25:1
Heads: CNC ported
Valves: Titanium, 42.0mm intake, 35.4 mm exhaust
Power: 170 RWHP @11,500 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel)
Torque: 86.0 Ft-lbf @ 10,000 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel)
Piston: Forged alloy slipper type
Rod: Forged H-beam high strength alloy steel
Crankshaft: Lightweight forged steel
Fuel System: IDS Technology DDFI 3 electronic fuel injection and engine management system, fully programmable, 61mm throttle bodies, single injector, PWM fuel pump
Exhaust: Stainless steel ultralight 2 into 1 system.
Clutch: Multiplate Mechanical Slipper
Primary Drive: Straight cut gear, 1.806 ratio
Transmission: 6 speed
(Message edited by Xoptimizedrsx on August 31, 2010) |
Xoptimizedrsx
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 04:32 pm: |
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The Daytona sport bike version.
(same as above)
Engine
Type: 72˚ V-Twin, 4-Stroke, 4-valve DOHC FF valvetrain
Displacement: 1126 cc
Bore and Stroke: 103 x 67.5
Compression Ratio: 12:6 Stock 1125R
Heads: Stock 1125R
Valves: Steel, Stock 1125R
Power: 140+ RWHP @10,800 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel)
Torque: 80 Ft-lbf @ 8,500 RPM (Dynojet Rear Wheel)
Piston: Stock 1125R forged aluminum
Rod: Stock high strength alloy steel
Crankshaft: Stock forged steel
Fuel System: IDS Technology DDFI 3 electronic fuel injection and engine management system, fully programmable, 61mm throttle bodies, single injector, PWM fuel pump
Exhaust: Stainless steel ultralight 2 into 1 system.
Clutch: Multiplate with vacuum operated slipper or optional mechanical slipper at extra charge
Primary Drive: Straight cut gear, 1.806 ratio
Transmission: 6 speed |
Boogiman1981
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 04:37 pm: |
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so what about dropping cr a little and adding a turbo? |
What_the
| | Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 12:33 am: |
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http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp? guid=YXHFSC&aid=3064&cid=9683&s=&a=
Nice Caption. "Box of goodies from Erik Buell Racing for the 1125R"
Called on Monday, parts were there Tuesday, so they could leave Thursday for the salt.
Don and Glendale are good people.
EZ is powered by Erik Buell Racing parts. Just Sayin... |
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