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V74
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

where do i search ebay for one or which company makes/supplies them ?
have been toying with the the idea of fitting something like that to my 99 M2 for a while and want to know more,
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Redbat
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

V74,

I found it at Speed Pro Performance. Unfortunately, this was the last one they had. I was told they no longer make them in the mini size. Check with them. Maybe they will have the mfg. co. make more.
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Redbat
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Geforce,

Thanks for the kind words. I know it's not for everyone, but neither is a Buell for everyone. If you look at the first picture, at first glance it looks like a mini tank bag.
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Redbat
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aseecobra,

These are bar end mirrors, I bolted to the existing mirror mounts. I just think when mounted to the bar ends, they make the bike too wide. They allow me to see behind me by looking under my arms. They took a little getting use to, but now I like em.

Bobby_fletcher,

The turn signals are mounted on each side of the headlight, on the black plastic shroud. They tuck in tight, and I think they look better than any other turn signals I've seen. (IMHO). Since they're led's they work great too.
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Avalaugh
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Redbat, like the quality of the work but can you honestly say that it looks good ? I know the 1125 is a marmite bike, but that just makes it look so bad it's upsetting me :0

Sorry dude but it might end up on a website like this


http://www.yourcarisshit.com/worst_cars.asp


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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You forgot the little red flag. To let the mailman know there is something to pick up.

<kidding!>

Very nice execution. You could probably yank the stock filter, and do velocity stacks.

Rob
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Redbat
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Carbonbigfoot,

That's another option I want to try.(Velocity stacks without the stock filter).Like I said earlier, it may be different, but I'm having fun with it.

If it show's a healthy power increase, it may not seem so strange. After all, a lot of people thought the 1125's were strange looking when they first saw one. That is until they bought one.
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1_mike
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Red -

While not my proverbial cup of tea either...you did a very nice job on the installation.

Two criticisms if I may -

1. Open the inner airbox hole to the full diameter of the hole in the airbox cover. Even to the point of a wider "drawer pull".. Or something hand made to help open the hole.

2. Remove or at least change...the "grill" in the front of the scoop.
I'd be willing to bet those tiny little holes will severely restrict total airflow...which afterall...is one of the things you're going after.
The round aircleaner is also very much a possible candidate for the shelf. Same thing, don't restrict the airflow.

Otherwise as I said...good work.

Mike
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Buellsruell
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While I do not care for this mod whatsoever "esthetically speaking", I must say that you really did an incredible job on the execution of it. And I always love to see someone with a great imagination (and an apparent big set of kahones!) actually go forth with what they conjure up in their heads like this.

After all- isn't that one of the reasons we all ride Buells? Because they are *DIFFERENT*??

Looking forward to seeing your next "one of a kind" mod.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Monday, August 02, 2010 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I keep thinking it's a radar unit.
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Chameleon
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting mod, but I agree with the majority of the other commentators.



I gained 3 HP and almost 4 FtLbs by simply removing the inner air box cover.
We also dyno'd it with the insert around the fuel inlet removed, but there were no gains.

Dyno chart and some video of the dyno runs:



(Message edited by chameleon on August 03, 2010)
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Redbat
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chameleon,

I believe the result you've found. But, there still may be better results to discover from what I'm testing here. First,the hole I cut out, is substantially larger than removing the insert from the front of the air cover. Also, the air inlet I've cut out is almost centered directly over the throttle bodies. And closing off the original lower air inlet will change the way the air enters the air box. Highscore discussed this at length in a previous thread. He spoke of the air dynamics going on in the stock configuration, among other things. I'm also going to remove the stock filter, and add velocity stacks, plus I'll use a K&N filter in the air scoop while testing this configuration. This air scoop set up has opened several possible configurations to try. It should be interesting. It may not work well, but, it may work better than any one has yet discovered. I can only hope. But unless one try's, we'll never know.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good Luck! :-) Keep us posted.
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Pizzaboy
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

uhm..... huh.


http://www.youdrivewhat.com/
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Kaotikevo
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WoW,...........just WOW
Your work is excellent, but did you design it with your eyes closed?
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Redbat
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never heard anyone comment on the Wakan. I don't think mine is all THAT different.

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Cherry_bomb
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

redbat:

the wakan-site says: http://www.engmore.com/2-machine.php

computer-controlled butterfly-fed twin air intakes...

no offense: your's useless, making it even harder for air to reach the airbox and it's too big. but the execution is very well done.

but don't compare it to the wakan-thing.
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Easyrider
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With the Wakan they open at 2400 RPM, before that RPM it stays closed (-:
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Xodot
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The quality of your workmanship is to be admired
Thanks for sharing it.
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Chevycummins
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the idea, now we just need someone that can mold carbon fiber. I would like to see the cover just a little taller than stock with the scoops with flaps made into the cover. Now we would have a use for the noid solenoid to open the air intake flaps at higher throttle.
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Redbat
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cherry_bomb,

Please realize, this is only a friendly opinion. So I politely disagree. Without a long explanation, I have a little experience with this subject.

Take a good look at the side profile of the Wakan. The wind gets deflected away from the front of the air scoop on that bike as well. I actually prefer a non-ram effect, because it can be difficult to tune the motorcycle when stationary vs. how the air reacts when in motion. So my setup seems strange, but because of it's size, I still think there is potential for a significant mid range power boost. I'm not as concerned about top end HP.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chevycummins - reusing the noid. :-)

Redbat - Baseline and modified dyno runs would be so cool!
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

on the youdrivewhat page 2 "blow it out your ass" http://www.youdrivewhat.com/page/2/, i know the guy with that white toyota mr2 with the turbines. thats where my friends and i get or jet engines from and hes the one that owns the y2k we play around on. those things are completely functional and it has been at the salt flats multiple times. it NEEDS that front wing. it tries to fly...

he also has a dakota set up the same way and a 280z with a turbine under the hood...
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Cherry_bomb
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 06:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)






something similar for the buell...
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Redbat
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cherry_bomb,

I considered using a Hypercharger like that, but felt it's too small to feed the huge throttle bodies of the 1125. Probably works good for the Buell Lightning though.
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Augustus74
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cherrybomb - you ever price a hypercharger? I bet Redbat did the same thing cheaper!?!?
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Drhodes1970
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That looks at home recessed in there like that.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My .02, I like the idea and it's a very clean install (if I would've done it you'd see the duct tape..) but to be honest it does look like it's just sitting on the top where as the one on the Lightning above looks more like it was made to be there. If it works performance wise I would think about tinkering with the airbox to make it look more sunk in like the one above.
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Kaotikevo
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That one on the lightning looks killer, and only because its recessed and looks alot more like it belonged there from the beginning.
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Redbat
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you ever see bottom of the Hypercharger? The opening is aprox. 2-1/4 inches wide. It just won't flow enough air for the Helicon.

The air scoop I installed has an opening over 5 inches wide, (on the bottom side) with no butterfly valves to impede flow. Think about it. Which one do you think will work better?
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Chameleon
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe this is the item No_rice intended to link to:
http://www.youdrivewhat.com/blow-it-out-your-ass-2
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Dannybuell
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Compared to the factory weenie in front of the header that thing will likely bring in more air.

I like the Ducati Monster implementation.

http://www.ducati.com/bikes/monster/1100/index.do
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Redbat
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2010 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd just like to say I appreciate all the thoughts and comments, whether good or bad. I like when we can share ideas, with out any drama.

I'm about to move into a new house, so we're very busy packing. But after we settle in, and the outside temps. drop to a sane level, I'll do some testing to see how this air scoop works. So far I like it. Especially since I installed the Barker's slipon! The CR runs better than ever. In the meantime, keep the comments and ideas coming.
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