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Dannybuell
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

there are 2 on ebay same seller

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buell-1125R-1125CR- 1125-REAR-WHEEL-RIM-/370394391422?cmd=ViewItem&pt= Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item563d39e37e
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I called the dealer AGAIN and they gave me the run around on the wheel. They said call Monday and they'll have a better idea where it is.

BU!!SH!TIIII I'm going to raise holy hell if the bike isn't done in a week. Any other machine would have been done and I would have already put my mods on. This taking a month to get a wheel is starting to get on my nerves. Christ I could probably get a wheel for a Vincent Black Shadow in less time and they haven't made them in almost 60 years!!!!!
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Stevek1125r
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only 3 weeks... cry baby... : p
My bikes been waiting on the clutch seal for 2.5 months. It just came in the other day.... Of course that was only 1 of a few parts that were getting ordered....I might get my bike back next week... Its been in service since april 7th.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was discussing this with a tech at a dealer yesterday. He was having a hard time trying to get a warranty wheel for a bike that has an air leak that wont seal. He ended up putting a tube in the tire just to get the customer back on the road till the new rim comes in. It sounds like HD screwed up something with Enkei, the maker of the rims.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BUY A USED WHEEL.

They are THE SAME. IDENTICAL. Color may be different...but unless - as noted above in the thread - you have a 2010, the XB rear wheel IS THE SAME as your 1125 rear wheel.

The bearings are the same.

The ONLY difference is, the 1125 wheel mounts "backwards" because the belt is on the "wrong" side.

The only other possible difference is, if you buy a Ulysses wheel, you get more weight from the strengthening strip in the rim.

A 2 bearing XB rear wheel is identical to a 2 bearing 1125 rear wheel. No other way to phrase it.

And letting the bank take it back because of a rear wheel? You're an idiot if that sounds like a good idea, even for a split second. Buy a used wheel, go for a ride, feel better.

And it's entirely possible that Enkei screwed up. In the change to a 3 bearing setup, they (the supplier) may have obsoleted the 2 bearing wheel, or pushed it way down their priority list.
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Rcinclt
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dropped off my rear Uly wheel because of bearing failure at the dealership exactly 22 days ago and they still have no idea when it may be ready. I ended up going this past tuesday, picked up my wheel and spent $83 (which is 1000 miles of gas money) in replacement bearings, spacer, and had them installed at a local Honda shop. Keep in mind this is money out of my pocket for something that should be warranty work. I have a long trip planned starting friday and need to have the bike ready.

As a side note at the advice of many guys here I also ordered a right side scoop to keep my bike and I a little cooler during my trip. That was at least a week before the wheel got ordered (over 30 days now). They have no idea when it is coming in.

I love my ULY, and am a patient and understanding man, but I don't like getting jerked around so that the MOCO can save a few pennies which IMO is the underlying issue here.
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No_rice
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i called hd about my left side pod i ordered a couple months ago. as soon as i said i needed him to check part M... blah blah blah, he said "ah one of those problematic buell parts..."

he said he'd have to email one of the other guys and see where my shop was at on the waiting list. SUPPOSEDLY july 9th. good thing im not holding my breath.
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Kc10_fe
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Call and ask if there might be a take off wheel you can buy from the mother ship.
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bikes been waiting on the clutch seal for 2.5 months. It just came in the other day.... Of course that was only 1 of a few parts that were getting ordered....I might get my bike back next week... Its been in service since april 7th.



I would have blown a head gasket if these idiots are that slow. There is no way in hell I'm waiting 2.5 months for a new rear wheel. Like I said before, if it were any other machine I would have had the wheel right now. But for some reason hardley has chosen to dick me around on the parts. The axle, bearings and spacers all came in, no problem. I applaud the dealership for getting that much. Now if they can just finish what they started.....



BUY A USED WHEEL.

They are THE SAME. IDENTICAL. Color may be different...but unless - as noted above in the thread - you have a 2010, the XB rear wheel IS THE SAME as your 1125 rear wheel.

The bearings are the same.

The ONLY difference is, the 1125 wheel mounts "backwards" because the belt is on the "wrong" side.

The only other possible difference is, if you buy a Ulysses wheel, you get more weight from the strengthening strip in the rim.

A 2 bearing XB rear wheel is identical to a 2 bearing 1125 rear wheel. No other way to phrase it.

And letting the bank take it back because of a rear wheel? You're an idiot if that sounds like a good idea, even for a split second. Buy a used wheel, go for a ride, feel better.

And it's entirely possible that Enkei screwed up. In the change to a 3 bearing setup, they (the supplier) may have obsoleted the 2 bearing wheel, or pushed it way down their priority list.



I'm supposed to be getting the 3 bearing wheel, not the two bearing wheel. I have no desire to have another two bearing wheel from an XB or anything else for that matter. The two bearing wheel caused this mess I'm in right now, and I want to avoid another breakdown beside the road. The original wheel is trashed from the two bearing failure so it's toast. I want the three bearing wheel so I don't have to repeat this nightmare again every 3000 miles or so. I could see if I had mega miles on this bike, but I only have 3700 on it. Of the 3700 I put on all but 800 (it was a dealer demo). That makes the bearing failure happen at about 2900 miles or so.

(Message edited by mcballpeen on June 26, 2010)

(Message edited by mcballpeen on June 26, 2010)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, make sure they order not only a wheel...but a wheel KIT. That will include the wheel, bearings, and AXLE (it's different for the '10 wheel).

Might as well head that possible snafu off at the pass...call them Monday, make sure they ordered an axle.

In the meantime...balance the aggravation of not riding, with the $ of buying an Ebay wheel and going riding till the '10 wheel comes in.
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Stevek1125r
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 06:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

did you buy your bike before the fire sale? if so then i can understand your frustration.

If you are like me and bought he bike during the FireSale , then REALLY you have no room to talk. you bought the bike with a warranty and Buell was shut down.. what did you expect.??????? If you ACTUALLY expected parts in a timely manner , then you are a fool. Sorry but this stuff happens in Aviation all the time.. I guess since i'm used to dealing with this stuff for my work, i wasn't surprised by the long wait. Be happy the warranty is even honored... they could have told you to screw off..

Now the options are to buy a used wheel to get it back on the road till the new part comes in, leave it at the dealer and cry and whine on a Buell forum board where ALL of us are equally affected, or leave it at the dealer, wait.. get the bike back and then sell it off. I recommend selling it since waiting for parts/warranty work is obviously a big problem for you. give me a better chance of getting parts for my bike... : )

Last comment. I know in 2010 models they changed the rear wheel to a 3 bearing style. so obviously Buell decided it was a big enough issue to make a change...Now my question though is how many of us have MORE than 3700 miles and have not had an issue? ALso you can't say your bike has a trend of wheel bearing failures every 3k miles.. you haven't owned the bike long enough to make that comment. Also why do you say " I only have 3700 on it. Of the 3700 I put on all but 800 (it was a dealer demo). That makes the bearing failure happen at about 2900 miles or so.

this comment makes no sense... the wheel bearing failed at 3700 miles it was 2900 miles for YOU, but it was still 3700 miles for the bike... yet In your expert opinion the wheel bearings can fail every 3k miles?????? Mine R has 7k+ miles, changed 3 tires, no bearing issues as of yet.... so whats your expert opinion on that now?

look i know it sucks to have to wait, but once it is back you will forget the issues. next time, try to do what i did, hold out on the warranty work till you have more issues to deal with. I'm getting a cluster, ecm, front rotor, pads, fuel pump, inner airbox cover and something else... oh the Clutch seal... Hell i only turned in my bike cause it just quit running.

Oh here's your cheese ....... : p
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Rkc00
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just got my 2010 rear wheel in hero blue that I ordered at the end of april.
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Usanigel
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With Buell "closed" and you want to ride then get a used wheel till the replacement comes in. Talk with the dealer and ask him to do all the work as a customer service. Bearings are cheap from the local supply house. Harley use the same ones and jack up the price. Main thing I would be asking is about extending the warranty do to the delay and the machine sitting at the dealers.
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Rsh
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check with Mmcustoms, parting out an 1125 in the classifieds.

Part of the listing
"near perfect hero blue rims i bought these used and never got to put them on 550.00"

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/ 575518.html?1277670053
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, make sure they order not only a wheel...but a wheel KIT. That will include the wheel, bearings, and AXLE (it's different for the '10 wheel).

Might as well head that possible snafu off at the pass...call them Monday, make sure they ordered an axle.

In the meantime...balance the aggravation of not riding, with the $ of buying an Ebay wheel and going riding till the '10 wheel comes in.


They ordered the bearings, axle and spacers and got them all in (amazingly enough)
. Now I'm waiting for the wheel, the only thing they don't have yet.
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Bub70
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stevek1125r, Holy Crap! What happened to your bike?!?
a cluster, ecm, front rotor, pads, fuel pump, inner airbox cover and something else... oh the Clutch seal
My bike is the same year, and I've had no problems. Now I am worried.
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Dirty_john
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have had a 2010 rear wheel on order for months, since Jan 2010 in fact - a 2009 wheel was supplied in error and got some pathetic excuse from Buell/Harley UK, in May I was told delivery would be mid June, now I am told delivery will be end of July - I will never buy a new bike from HD again, my money will go in future to Triumph, at least I have been to the Triumph factory and their future is far better than HD. as much as I love my 1125R and will keep it until it fails completely - enough is enough, I wish I had never sold my Firebolt to buy the 1125R
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Stevek1125r
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cluster issue was the low fuel lamp and a comm error between the ecm and Cluster.

The ecm is being replaced because it locked up in the middle of a flash. No ones fault, just poopy happens i guess

Rotor and pads are from (reading i did here) from the pads leaving sediment on the rotor, dealer says they'll replace it...

Fuel pump was the actual underlining issue.

Airbox due to the 2 halves separating from their plastic welds.. it just wasn't stuck together good enough. i was standing next to the mech when he pulled it off and it fell apart.

Clutch .... what else needs to be said.. its the clutch LOL...

I did put 7k miles on all of these parts before replacement. the cluster had been acting up for a long while, the fuel pump was something that suddenly happened, bike ran like poop. the other stuff ehh, no big deal.. i would not chalk it up as Buell sucks or parts were crap... poopy sometimes happens. i definitely would NOT say that other bikes could suffer the same issues.. most of these are well documented issues..SO other bike owners, i wouldn't worry.

I know the waiting game sucks and if i was an owner in the states waiting on my bike i would be HOT!!!, but i'm the otherside of the planet with nothing but time... so for me... its not a big deal.

With all this said.. I still hate to see people complain about something they KNEW COULD HAPPEN.
the Only people, in my eyes, that have a right to throughly gripe is the owners that bought bikes before OCT 15th... they thought they would be supported PROPERLY throughout the warrnty time period, and they are not getting that..

anywhoo back to eating my dust...
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No_rice
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i bought an 08 1125r full retail in jan of 08. it was the first one here in my shop. then i still bought an 09 cr in october after the announcement. and i would still buy another one.

i had to have the clutch leak fixed on the 08. other then that nothing besides the random ecm reflashes. and that thing gets ridden hard. lots of wheelies, stoppies, track days, and off road. still original wheel bearings. even the silver wheels(use the blue on the track mostly for about the last year) i have on it now have the original bearings (well the original upgraded bearings) in them... but both my 03 xb9r's do also...

come to think of it. i havent changed a single wheel bearing in any of my 7 buells. heck i even pulled the bearings out of one set of wheels, got the wheels powder coated and shoved them back in.
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I'm giving the dealer till November. That's as far as I'm paid up on my loan. I'll not put another cent into that bike if they haven't gotten it fixed. I'll be damned if the bank is going to make me pay for a bike that doesn't run. It can go back to them (the bank) and to hell with my credit. I only wished I had hardley credit. I hate screwing HONEST banks out of their money.........

I called the moco the other day and they gave me the run around. The whole "we'll call you back" sort of deal. Of course they never did. They're absolutely no help what so ever. I'll call my dealer today and ask to talk to parts (instead of service). So they can tell me that they can't find a wheel for the bike.

You know, when I bought the bike (6/09) they said it had all of the upgrades. This problem with the bearings must have come AFTER that. No clutch leaking (so far) no bad stator, etc. It truly amazes me how much indifference the moco can truly have about some bikes they are supposed to cover. I mean I might as well complain to them about my Suzuki for all the more care they are expressing.
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the stock wheel damaged, or is it just the bearings?? If it is just the bearings, have them toss in a set so you can ride until the new high zoot mk1 mod2 wheel gets in.

A reasonable request that I can't imagine would be denied....the dealer can file warranty and get paid to do it...it is not an involved or complicated process with the proper tooling...if the dealer won't do it....you need a more customer oriented dealer...

I know that one of the major issus with Buells is the spotty customer support by some dealers...in every case that I personally know of, the problem is not so much what needs to be done. The problem is the "culture" at the dealership....for so long Harley was an exclusive item...that meant the dealerships had more people waiting in line than than the ones leaving the shop pissed off...so it didn't matter how they treated the customer...some shops in this down economy haven't got the common sense to realize that every customer is a valued asset...it makes good sense to go the extra mile for them...maybe the warranty rate is not as good as the customer rate...but the shop will still make a profit...

Shops that understand good business practices are still open (a local independent shop has expanded their facilities...while a local Hardley shop has closed the doors...why???...the local shop listens to what you want, seriously works to give you what you want...customer flock to them....the Hardley shop ran them off and then wondered why they had no customers...

Find a dealer that gives a crap...I don't know of any in Pennsylvania...shame you aren't in Florida or Tennessee...I know of a couple of kick ass shops there...

(Message edited by fast1075 on June 30, 2010)
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>to hell with my credit.

I'd calm down and think about that.

It's the equivalent of putting a bullet in your head to keep the enemy from getting ammo.
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Kirb
Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I'll be damned if the bank is going to make me pay for a bike that doesn't run."

"...to hell with my credit"

Wow, willing to trash your credit rating for an issue with supplying a wheel. You would be better off calling a lawyer to see if they can do anything for you. You are FAR to willing to trash your future.

The bank doesn't care. They will get your money and repop the bike. Will they take a hit? yes, but not nearly as much as you will take trying to rebuild your credit (if you care).

Good luck...you are going to need it.
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the stock wheel damaged, or is it just the bearings?? If it is just the bearings, have them toss in a set so you can ride until the new high zoot mk1 mod2 wheel gets in.

The wheel is toast. The bearing failure was complete up to the point that the wheel was momentarily stopping while I was riding along at 65MPH.

Wow, willing to trash your credit rating for an issue with supplying a wheel. You would be better off calling a lawyer to see if they can do anything for you. You are FAR to willing to trash your future.

I don't see how a lawyer will help. If the moco hasn't come up with a wheel in six months, I somehow doubt that Edgar Snyder (a local lawyer who advertises on TV) will get them to cough it up. Like I said I don't want to do it because I feel for people at the bank, but I'll do what I have to.

So what you're telling me to do is continue to pay for a bike that is in the shop AND has exactly zero chance of getting fixed AND will never run again. Yep, that's what I want to do, piss my money away on a very expensive object d' art. I'll give a lawyer a try, hey it isn't going to cost anything to ask, right?
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

pay for a bike that is in the shop AND has exactly zero chance of getting fixed AND will never run again.




That is an inaccurate statement.
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Something I found out the other day from my dealer. It seems that the Buell Ulys have been having the same bearing failure as our 1125Rs. It turns out they use the exact same bearings. It seems that they went to a different manufacturer on just these wheel bearings. The rest of the XB line is O.K. I MIGHT try and get a different wheel from them.
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is inaccurate about the statement? The moco has no clue as to where to look for a rear wheel, my dealer doesn't, the internet doesn't have any 2010 wheels. Maybe you'd like to share with me a source of 2010 rear wheels?
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

O.K. guys. After looking at many pictures of Eric Buell's race bikes, I've noticed that not many of them have stock back wheels on them. So I got to thinking that THEY might have an 2010 back wheel.

I used the information on their website to 411 their phone number and gave them a call. The nice lady who answered the phone put me in touch with Mike. Mike looked and in the warehouse they has a 2010, three bearing, rear wheel. $175 later I now have a 2010, three bearing, rear wheel. I informed the dealer that I had done something that they and the moco had failed to do. CHECK WITH ERIK BUELL!!!!!! DUH! I'll notify the dealer when it gets here and when they can put it on.

It's nice to know that at least I can do something that the mighty moco can't.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

It seems that they went to a different manufacturer on just these wheel bearings. The rest of the XB line is O.K. I MIGHT try and get a different wheel from them.




Wrong again, the all XB's and 1125's use the same bearings, spacers, brake rotors, and mounting hardware. Call your dealer and get the part number for rear bearings on an 09 1125R and an 09 Firebolt if you would like to confirm. : )


quote:

What is inaccurate about the statement?




The entire line that I had quoted. It has a 100% chance of getting fixed.



quote:

The moco has no clue as to where to look for a rear wheel, my dealer doesn't, the internet doesn't have any 2010 wheels.




Again you are wrong, the moco knows exactly where they are, and is trying to get them made. They don't appear out of thin air overnight. There have been several others waiting for 2010 wheels that have been getting them through warranty. It takes a little while as they are built to order, but they do eventually come.


quote:

Maybe you'd like to share with me a source of 2010 rear wheels?




Your dealer is one of many places.



quote:

I informed the dealer that I had done something that they and the moco had failed to do. CHECK WITH ERIK BUELL!!!!!! DUH! I'll notify the dealer when it gets here and when they can put it on.




No dealer will call Erik Buell Racing to get parts under warranty, as they will not be covered for reimbursement. Erik Buell Racing is not a supplier of parts for HD.
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Bueller4ever
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So what you're telling me to do is continue to pay for a bike that is in the shop AND has exactly zero chance of getting fixed AND will never run again. Yep, that's what I want to do, piss my money away on a very expensive object d' art. I'll give a lawyer a try, hey it isn't going to cost anything to ask, right?

You all ready paid for the bike by borrowing the money. You are simply paying for a loan, which the bank holds a lien on the motorcycle as collateral. Just because you borrowed the money from HD financial doesn't make your statement any less silly. Suppose you used your credit union instead. Careful, your immaturity is showing. Next time pay cash, for next time there may not be any money to borrow.}
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