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Mcballpeen
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And all my dealer has to show for it is an axle, spacers and three bearings. Still no rear wheel.

For those of you who don't know, I blew the rears out on the turnpike while doing the speed limit. The dealer said that I would need a whole new rear wheel, axle, spacers and bearings.

Hardley should really get off it's collective asses and ship the wheel. If it were any other motorcycle, it would have been fixed weeks ago. I'm almost positive if were a hardley-ableson they would have had the parts on hand to fix it. When, oh when, are they going to stop jerking us around?

In the meantime since my bike is at the dealers (instead of being ridden) I've removed the insurance on it. I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for something that isn't going to be used. I also bought another bike. This one is a used 2002 Suzuki Bandit 1200. Sorry guys, I know I've sinned but I couldn't find a Buell locally (other than the B-Last).





Oh yes, one more thing. Suppose, just suppose, that they couldn't find a rear wheel for the bike. I'll be damned if I'm going to be stuck with a useless hunk of metal that sounds good, but doesn't go anywhere. What would be my best bet in letting the bank reposes it? I really, really don't want my credit ruined.

(Message edited by mcballpeen on June 24, 2010)

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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rear wheels have been on backorder but have recently come off it. HD is still screwing with the suppliers.

Also, you should of gotten the Blast. It is statistically the most reliable HD/Buell ever built, 85mpg, and it will easily keep up with a group of 1125R's in the twisties.
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Tpoppa
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and it will easily keep up with a group of 1125R's in the twisties.

Are you being serious?

(Message edited by tpoppa on June 24, 2010)
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Syonyk
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the topic of the Blast, how bad is the vibration on it? A big thumper doesn't sound terribly pleasant to ride for long distances.

... and I'd say that an excellent rider on a Blast *might* be able to keep up with average riders on an 1125R. But that's true of any set of bikes... the rider is the bulk of the skill.

That sucks on the wheel. If the wheels are the same, could you get a used XB9/XB12 wheel and swap it on while waiting for the proper one to come in?

... and then have two sets of wheels, one for street rubber, one for track rubber? : D
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, I've done it on several occasions. Only part I struggle on is trying to go 80mph uphill, the Blast just doesn't have the muscle.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The vibration is only annoying at idle, so I turn it off, but I also find it annoying on my 1125's so I turn them off too. Once your moving, it is pretty smooth as long as you aren't lugging the motor.
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Freight_dog
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good choice on the Bandito. Those air cooled Zuki's are bulletproof (in stark contrast to your other bike) and the 1200 is a torquey girl and engine mods aplenty to give you upwards of 150 hp. Check out www.holeshot.com

(Message edited by Freight_dog on June 24, 2010)
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Before I did something as drastic as buying another bike I would have bought a used wheel.
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What would be my best bet in letting the bank reposes it? I really, really don't want my credit ruined.

lol seriously? over a wheel? wow. and there is no way to get something repoed without affecting your credit...

if your that bent up about it, pick one up used(yes xb wheels will work), and run it until your NEW wheel comes in, then sell it back off. there are plenty of them floating around. heck, ive got 2 extra pairs of wheels laying around just because they were cheap. i know many others do too.

on that note, i ordered wheels for Buellgators 1125 when i was down working at his shop this winter, the back one showed up a couple months after that. last i knew the front one still hadnt shown up. and it never was listed as being on back order...
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Aeholton
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Before I did something as drastic as buying another bike I would have bought a used wheel.

My thoughts exactly. Also, I wouldn't be thinking about letting my bike be repo'd either.
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My old Blast had less vibration at 70 mph than my XB does. At an idle the turnsignals would jiggle like jello...at speed, it was amazingly smooth....all the other big singles I have ever owned got worse the higher the revs got....at 55mph the Blast is almost perfectly smooth.

If the chassis was more rigid, I would still have mine...I got to the point where I could get the chassis to flex...disconcerting is the word....not dangerous, but not very nice.

I fixed that little problem with an XB : )

On the wheel thing...if it was me (yeah, I'm nutz) and it was going to be a long time waiting...I would buy a fleabay wheel, put it on myself and when the new wheel come in, keep it for a spare for when I couldn't get one in the future....but i'm crazy like that. (I'm saving up all sorts of goodies for the day when parts for Jezebel get hard to find)...

(Message edited by fast1075 on June 24, 2010)
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1125rcya
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Before you go screwing up your credit talk to a lawyer! If your that bent over harley not being able to get a part for your bike in a timely manor, someone should be held responsible! Just think every time your bike breaks down how long you have to wait to get it fixed and they only have 7 years of responsibility so in theory you could have only 2 good riding months a year! Yep if I were you id talk to a lawyer.
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Xodot
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a used wheel - heck a new wheel - has got to be cheaper than your first meeting with the lawyer - plus the results are immediate with a wheel.
Don't default. You will regret it.
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Drawkward
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do the Xb wheels fit the 1125R for sure?
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Benzo_mike
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is statistically the most reliable HD/Buell ever built...


Three kinds of people in this world - liars, damn liars, and statisticians.

I was specifically looking out for Blasts at homecoming, expecting HORDES of them since they represent about half of the Buells ever built. Plus that would have meant more chicks present at what was a world-class sausagefest.

As far as I can tell, we had a grand total of THREE Blasts "at" homecoming.

One broken down on the road in Columbus OH on the way in from Connecticut.

One broken down on the road in East Troy WI after 70 miles of riding (trailered up from TN). Unable to be repaired by the collective community at Alpine and eventually trailered to a dealer.

A very trick item (the Super Blastard) at the Erik Buell Racing open house, not staying at Alpine so I will assume fairly local.

Statistically the most reliable indeed. I think the almost complete lack of representation (in contrast to the huge numbers sold) says something. And don't get me wrong - I think they are cool in their own strange way, but their phenomenal "reliability" would not be a selling point were I contemplating a purchase.
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Benzo_mike
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and 'Peen - congrats on the Bandit. Great choice (check my profile pic). An excellent Plan B.
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Doerman
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Used wheel on eBay

Seems a lot quicker and cheaper than the Bandito backup. Must have wanted one, I suppose.
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do the Xb wheels fit the 1125R for sure?

unless you have a 2010, any of the xb wheels will work on your 1125.

A very trick item (the Super Blastard) at the Erik Buell Racing open house, not staying at Alpine so I will assume fairly local.

from Minnesota.

and as far as reliability if thats all it takes for you, that can be any vehicle easily. weve had 2. never a problem with them. and ive seen many at homecoming over the years. they hold there own just fine. id buy another one if i came across a good deal. plus i have a box full of go fast goodies i never got on the last one!
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I was specifically looking out for Blasts at homecoming, expecting HORDES of them since they represent about half of the Buells ever built.




Half is about 16% right? They built 22k Blasts, out of about 135k bikes.

Yes, one guy broke down on the way, and another Blast which has a history of being abused and a half assed engine replacement had a coil issue. I didn't hear about the 3rd. Do I need to point out the at least 4 people with 1125's that came up to me with symptoms of a stator failing? What about the 3 bikes (including mine) that had wheel bearing failures? There was a XB9R that was running on one cylinder that I helped fix too that weekend.

The Blast is statistically the most reliable Buell and/or HD ever built, sorry if you don't believe it because of a few isolated cases. I know more Toyota Camry's that have caught fire this year than Blasts with any type of failure.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was just thinking about it, Crusty's daughter rode a Blast from Boston to the Homecoming a few years ago, I don't recall any issues with that 3000 mile round trip ride.

Ken (Sekgalli?) broke a kickstand on his Uly on Sunday. Just saying...
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Bub70
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

McBallPeen
I hesitate to comment, as I will probably get flamed, but the Bandit is a great substitute. I have a 2007 Bandit 1250 that I bought specifically to determine if I could live with that riding style before I plunked down $12K on an 1125r. I have always had cruisers or muscle bikes (V65Magna, etc.) so I wasn't sure I would be able to handle the sport bike ergos. I did a tremendous amount of research, as I wanted a bike that would have as much torque as possible, within the confines of "sportbike". Honestly, the Bandit is a "Naked Standard", but there is no replacement for displacement and the 1250 wastes the liter bikes everytime. After a year of riding the Bandit, I was comfortable enough to commit to the 1125r. They ARE different bikes, and I have to say the inline 4 is smoother, but you really can't compare. Either one will have you at triple digits before you realize it.
How can another bike in the stable be a BAD thing? It's all about being on 2 wheels.
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Jramsey
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never heard of being able to drop insurance on a financed vehicle.

I'm sure the lending institution will be on your butt pretty quick once the insurance company notifies them.
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Kirb
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would assume the bank is going to be sending you a letter suggesting you re-up the insurance or they will for you...at a very high rate.

I can understand your frustration on the backorder, but let it get repoed? That has to be the most short sighted thing I have ever heard.

The smart thing to do is keep paying the bank, wait for Buell to get you a wheel, and document all the transactions. I would then go to a lawyer if this dragged out 6 months.

HD promised parts for 7 years. I would assume the parts are going to get easier to find soon. HD shook up the supplier network by pulling Buell. I'm sure that is taking some time to get back on track.
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Cravacor
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dang McBallpeen, I have a sweet '01 FZ1 I would have sold you!
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Mcballpeen
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was worried that there wouldn't be any wheels left (for some reason). Now that they were just back ordered, I feel much better about the bike getting fixed. I'll call the dealer tomorrow (they said they'd tell me where the 2010 wheel was in the pipeline). I don't think the bike will be going back to the bank just yet as there is SOME hope for it yet.

I suppose a XB rear wheel MIGHT have worked, but I don't want the same thing happening in another 3000 or so miles. I mean, who knows when the bearings might go out? One mile, a thousand miles, never? I want the 1125 to be my main bike, not just something I take out on weekends and really nice days. According to the dealer the axle was trashed along with the wheel. So I'd have to end up getting another axle too.

I have an FMF Apex pipe, Eric Buell ECM and a K&N filter for it just sitting at home waiting for the wheel to be done. I MIGHT sell the 1200 Bandit when everything is done. Having a second bike might not be all it's cracked up to be. It seems my friend who has a Ducati 1098 and a 1500 Goldwing (I was riding with him when the bearing blew) has found himself with a loaner bike. It seems the Ducati is at the shop for a recall and a new back tire and the Goldwing has a cracked radiator on it (be kind, it does have over 150,000 miles on it). It is a BMW, though I some how doubt it's the S1000RR. So having a second bike is not all it's cracked up to be.

It's still nice to ride with the bike in the shop. However I don't feel the sense of pride with owning the Bandit as I do with my Buell. For one thing it is easily down 40 horsepower and is 40 pounds heavier compared to the Buell. It handles pretty well for a UJM but corners are a lot easier on my Buell. It will do the ton pretty easily, but needs a sixth gear for smoother operation. For having a Micron pipe and a K&N airfilter it carburates quite well. I'm almost sure that the owner who put these mods on didn't re-jet it, but it does want to work pretty well without it. I had to get used to it NOT having as much low end as our Buells and have stalled it a few times. The tires are the same size so there isn't a problem there. I fouled the #3 plug letting it warm up the other day but replacing it was easy. All in all, a good replacement bike.

(Message edited by mcballpeen on June 24, 2010)
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

So having a second bike is not all it's cracked up to be.




I have four bikes, my dad said (and he is correct), that it is four times the headache! : D

Just like that bumper sticker "If it has tits or tires, you're gonna have problems" : )
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Jules
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suppose a XB rear wheel MIGHT have worked, but I don't want the same thing happening in another 3000 or so miles. I mean, who knows when the bearings might go out? One mile, a thousand miles, never?

Unless the bearings are on back order too then buy a used wheel AND a set of bearings and swap them out if you're concerned..
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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Call 1800 lemonlaw
Kimmel and Silverman they are in s.Jersey and Philly and they can get you your money back I think we gotta start doing this for every little thing so Hardley stops dicking us around
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Court
Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New Jersey has a Lemon Law for motorcycles . . Pennsylvania does not.

22 of the 50 states have lemon laws for motorcycles.

Lemon Laws would have nothing to do with "failure to provide".

If you've got one shot . . aim it correctly. Folks, in the world of motorcycling, sometimes fail to properly understand what a Lemon Law will and will not provide and get fleeced by "motorcycle attorneys".

Each individual case varies but I've read nothing regarding any of this that would have me going to Lemon Law route.

Don't get me wrong . . I'm no fan of what HD did and is doing. But . . if I took them on I'd prefer to win rather than spends thousands only to have the courts toss it out.
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Toona
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2010 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hahaha, the bearings went out on my 2009 1125R tonight.

Oh, did I forget to mention that I swapped wheels out before I sold my '04 Lighting that the wheels were on before?

Or did I also forget that they were the silver XB9 wheels from an '03 that still had the black FAG bearings that were supposed to be replaced "way back when"? Wonder if they are still under "warranty" HAHAHA (just kidding for those of you without a sense of humor)

Yeah, and they had, from my time of ownership of said wheels, at least 20,000 miles on them. Who knows how many miles the previous owner had on the wheels/bearings.

It started sounding like metallic popcorn popping. I got to where I was going, about a mile away, got off and saw the damage.

Not wanting to cause any more damage to the belt/swingarm/axle/sleeve, I just called my wife to come get me and then I trucked it back to the shop. I'll blow it apart in the morning. I've got to change the rear tire (picked up a nail in it) anyway.

This will just give me some extra time to install the offset 1125R bars from Al at American Sport Bike.
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