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Dktechguy112
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 03:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the highbars on my 1125 cr, and i don't like the tie down points that i have been using, i usually go around the handle bars in between the handle bar clamp and the grips, but what i find is when i get to my destination the tie downs are putting pressure on the clutch switch, master cylinder. I saw on here a guy posted up a pic of his cr in his truck, and he had it tied down by the grips. Is that a good way to tie it down? I use a wheel chock to transport it, so it is fairly secure, but i want to find some better tie down points.
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Mtch
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 05:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i wouldn't like to put that much strain on the bars myself. around the forks above the lower tree is my favorite
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Therealassmikeg
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 05:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

canyon dancer straps are what you're looking for
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I always loop around the forks, above the lower triple tree. No stress on the handlebars at all. On the 1125's though, you have to have points that aren't too spread out to keep the straps from rubbing against the insides of the pods/radiators.
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the Canyon Dancers. Gets the strap down points farther out and away from the bike. Works great on my 1125r.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

get the straps that are 12"-18" long with a loop on each end. Slide them around the fork tube above the lower triple clamp. I've done a butt load of trailering my race bike, and that's the best I found. Canyon Dancers put a lot of strain on the bars and have a tendency to twist and move the grips around, wrecking the glue and causing the grips to move around will riding.
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Soft straps in the upper right corner of this pic work pretty good.

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Avc8130
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you tow a good amount, NOTHING beats a Pit Bull trailer restraint.
ac
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

canyon dancer straps are what you're looking for




They are great for ruining your grips!
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Avc8130
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For ONCE I agree with Froggy. Canyon Dancers are GARBAGE. They will trash your grips and most likely break the locating pins off your controls. When this happens their tension will loosen and the bike will sway. If you are LUCKY the bike won't fall.

I have done TONS of hauling. I have tried EVERYTHING. I would take $10 worth of soft straps over a CD any day.

Tip: if you MUST use straps use Carabiners to secure the tie downs to the soft straps and the tie downs to the mounting points. This will prevent the hooks from ever separating in the event of a large bump.
ac
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Kidder
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The second gen Canyon Dancer is designed not to ruin the grips.

http://www.canyondancer.com/
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No_rice
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tip: if you MUST use straps use Carabiners to secure the tie downs to the soft straps and the tie downs to the mounting points. This will prevent the hooks from ever separating in the event of a large bump.
ac

or a good old zip tie will accomplish that to if you have regular hooks!

and yes, i tie mine down with a soft strap just above the lower triple tree on the forks. my buells have been all over the place that way. tied alot of others down that way too.

we launched a trailer about 5ft off the ground once because someone infront of my friend(i was in another truck and trailer behind him but MY bike was in his trailer) hit one of the orange road construction barrels and launched it under the trailer. i think i probably turned white watching that.

we opened the trailer and all 5 bikes were right were they started. before we left i re-strapped all the bikes. i told them there tie down job sucked and we were traveling almost 1800 miles. i said when i got done we could flip the trailers on their top and the bikes would be hanging from the ceiling. damn near tested that theory!


and yes have had to many wrecked grips and bent bars from the canyon dancers(well not me, but to many of my friends tried that route).
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Avc8130
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is also the Cycle Cynch. Either way, the Pit Bulls are SO far superior.
ac
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

-1 on the canyon dancers. A friend of mine had his blackbird pop out of a set and fall over in the trailer.
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Avc8130
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In all honesty that probably had less to do with the CD and more to do with the tie down/anchor points/connections.
ac
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Coolice
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Always tie to the lower triple, and use a Canyon Dancer. BUT use the CD to balance the bike. If you cinch it down too tight you will bend the bars or upper triple clamp. Use the lower straps to pull the forks down, CD to balance the bike. I've trailered thousands of miles that way. And use a caribiner or loop thru the hooks so that they can't "bounce" loose, especially Uly's.
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Bishopjb1124
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't tow your bike just ride it that way you don't have to worry about straps coming loose.

Jimmy
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Rex
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

canyon dancers do mess up the grips...but the canyon dancers that I have hit the buttons on the handlebars, and can rip them off. then you hit the pods. I haven't found too much other than those roll in stands that will hold your wheels...I cannot find a good spot for tie downs.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unfortunately its going to touch the inside of your pod when securing over the lower triple, but its a flexible plastic, so its not going to permanently damage them, just put them out of sorts while the strap is there.

I used a set of canyon dancers on my dirtbike/pitbike last weekend, and i did NOT like them. At all.
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bishopjb1124,
I obviously prefer to ride my 1125. However it currently has a hole in the frame, and i had to take it the dealer to get the upgrade harness and clutch fix done. I have to tow it home.

Some times people have to tow a bike, i asked for advice on tie down points, if you don't have any, then you don't need to say anything. I don't need people saying the obvious.
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Daniii
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use straps around the Lower triple trees. I wind up puttng a slight outward tension against the air scoops, but after 1000 miles towing, I don't see any marks. I also tie the rear down through the pass footpeg brackets.
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Therealassmikeg
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I trailered my 1125R & R6 400 miles last weekend into the hills of W.Va. 100 miles of which were doing 60 thru the corners
(where we had no business going that fast towing) I thought the driver (who forgot he was in his car)
was going to high side the bikes off the trailer. The bikes stayed put. there is an ever so slight rub mark on my heated grips.
(I didn't notice this till Froggy pointed this out and almost needed a magnifying glass to see it)
I can see an argument about breaking the switch packs but even so if they broke you have the clutch and brake lever
housings holding everything from sliding inward. The horn buttons were depressed on both bikes.
I think it's safe to say there are many possibilities and with a little care and common sense you can secure a bike to trailer
using any of the suggested methods with little or no chance of damage to your bike.

Cheers

Mike
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Bishopjb1124
Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Freedom of speech brother, I will exercise it when I feel the need. It was stated as a joke (hence the LOL smiley), I also had to tow mine the other day (clutch went out due to the weep), used the front triples to tie it down. Yes it rubbed the pods but it was the only logical place to do it IMO.

Just so you know what i just stated was the obvious (about the tie down points). Common sense is not a common virtue amongst the majority of the American public.

Jimmy
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bishopjb1124,
I understand the obvious tie down points. I have 9 bikes/quads in my garage, i understand how to tie a bike down. I have never had a bike tip over on me. I usually go to the triples and the handlebars, but on this bike it rubs on the pods, and i like to keep my bike looking nice, so i was just asking people to see where other people have tied them down.
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Therealassmikeg
Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also put the passenger pegs back on and strapped to the brackets...


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Pdccd
Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I so want the Pit-bull setup, but $500 isn't easy to come buy or justify for such a rare use. (I'd need a set of two)
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks to everyone for the replies, you have given me some great ideas.

Now if my dealer could just get my bike done. I just found out they ordered the wrong belt(for an 1125R and i have a CR), and they didn't realize it until they got it, so now i won't get the bike for another week. But I can't really get upset because they are replacing the belt under warranty.
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got the second gen CDs and I've only trailered the bike a few times, mainly down the dirt road where I live in the Winter to the main road so I can ride. I have not seen any marks on my grips and I think if that was an issue some 1/4" neoprene glued to the inside of the CD 2nd gen Hard Cups would prevent any chafing. I can't see how Canyon Dancers are garbage. I can see how over tightening the straps could damage or bend the bars. But short of chafing my fairings by strapping the triple tree I don't see a better way to secure the machine. I've got marine grade stainless tie downs on my trailer at each corner. I haven't had an issue with trailering my other bikes. I think someone needs to invent a strap that attaches to a padded yoke that pulls down on the triple but puts the strap down points outboard of the bike more.
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Puzzled
Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Superbike Sling Tie Down

Similar to Canyon Dancer brand tie downs without the grip movement or rubbing the body work. The Superbike Sling allows the width of the downward lashing points to be adjusted to allow body work clearance.





http://www.njbuellowners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f =17&t=68
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