| Author | Message | ||
     Whippetlovr |
I have about 1600kms on my bike now, and compared to any bike I've ridden, I find it *extremely* difficult to find neutral. Even my husband, who has been riding for 25 years, says he has the same issue. Then last night, I was getting set for a ride... started her up in the garage, rolled her out in gear... then couldn't find neutral. Like, at ALL. Sat on the damn bike like an idiot for as long as I could, click click click, up, down, up, down, nothing, until my left hand started cramping so I just shut it off. I turned her back on, in gear (clutch in) and she gave me a sudden "pop" forward. Turned it back off, turned the key on only, and lo and behold, there was neutral. Is this a common issue with our bikes (mine's an 09) of could this be a symptom of a potentially larger problem?? | ||
| Pdccd |
I'm curious if others have this issue as well. I find my R to be very tricky to find neutral on in any conditions. Harder than any bike i've owned or ridden. Although it also has one of the smoothest transmissions ever otherwise. | ||
| D_adams |
Mines an 08 R and I think I've only had trouble finding neutral a couple of times. I've had the false neutral between 5th-6th a few times as well, but after the oiling recall, I don't think it's done it since. Almost 16,000 miles on the clock now. | ||
| Xnoahx |
Only when its cold. Once it warms up I have no problems | ||
| Kirb |
I have a buddy with a wet clutch ducati with this same problem....his solution was to run up the rpms a bit. I would check your oil level first. | ||
| Whippetlovr |
Oil levels are good, we just did the first oil change a couple days ago. Tonight my father was on the bike, couldn't find neutral, then when he did (i.e. indicator light was on, THOUGHT he was in neutral, he let go of the clutch and the bike was in gear. Did that twice. WTH | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
i had the EXACT same problem when i got my R..and it WILL go away once you get some more time on the tranny to loosin it up and you get used to the tranny..so dont worry bout it just ride...and you can always start it and roll it with the clutch in untill you get it broken in more  Jake | ||
| Kicka666 |
What oil are you running, the harley stuff is crap I run Motul 5100 no probs at all. | ||
| Smoke |
easiest way to find neutral is with the kill button. works for me every time. tim | ||
| Ratgin |
Same issue when cold with my R. Neutral is a rare thing to find | ||
| Gbaz |
09 cr Same problem. I find that if I put it in 1st let the clutch out enough to move it forward a foot or so I can then find N with no problems. When 1st starting the bike with it already in gear I can not get it into N no matter how long I try without letting it inch forward. | ||
| Whippetlovr |
I'm not running HD oil, I put in the Mobil 1 20W50 V Twin oil as recommended by many on here. | ||
| Whippetlovr |
And I'm finding it worse now that the bike is being broken in, then when it was brand new, hence my concern that maybe something is on its way to going wrong | ||
| Ratbuell |
Blip the throttle. They don't like dropping into N at low (idle) rpm's. | ||
| Augustus74 |
I have intermittent problems finding neutral with the bike off. I take it out of the garage before I start it up. Seems it got worse after the first oil change (i put in the Harley stuff) | ||
| Daniii |
Neutral is definately easier to find when the bike is warm. Or shut off. It is getting easier as the bike breaks in, I think. I have 1500 miles now. | ||
| Thefleshrocket |
If you have trouble finding neutral, blip the throttle and/or enegage the clutch to the point that it starts to grab a tiny bit and then disengage it completely. That should cause something in the transmission to move slightly and allow you to find neutral more easily. | ||
| Petebueller |
I've got about 7000 km on mine now and it is all good. It was initially almost impossible to find neutral with when the bike was cold. Sometimes a tap down from second worked best. | ||
| Bptex |
Very difficult to find when cold, just like every other motorcycle I've had. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
I oftentimes have trouble finding N on my '09R, cold or hot. Usually when I really need it, that's when it's hardest to find - Murphy's Law! Mike | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
have issues finding the actual neutral. however it seems like nearly every outing i get to find a false neutral between 5th and 6th gears | ||
| Whistler |
Maybe we're talking about different things but when neutral is hard to find, with clutch in, I'll roll the bike slightly backward and forward a time or two and then search again. Seems to do the trick for my CR. The Uly's neutral will hide even more often but the same routine works for her too. | ||
| Bigevildoer |
I had trouble here and there when I first started to ride it... did the first oil change and it got ALOT better. Put in Agip 10W50 full synthetic race oil. A KTM race tech (directly from the KTM race team) told me to use it - KTM uses Rotax engines just like our 1125s, so I figure he knows what he's doing. | ||
| Whippetlovr |
See, its gotten significantly worse AFTER my first oil change though. I rode the crap out of it yesterday, and yeah, had no issues when she was hot. But before that, I went to gas her up, and do you think I could find N? Nope? Sat there rolling back and forth at the pump like an idiot for a couple minutes before I found it. I've never had any false neutrals between 5 and 6 though. | ||
| Thefleshrocket |
Whippetlovr, if it got worse after your first oil change, it may well be worth it to change the oil and use something different/better. I hope this doesn't end up being another oil thread, but I have used Mobil1 15W50 exclusively in my bikes for a long time with no complaints. Shifting is generally good when cold and gets better when warm. Problems finding neutral are infrequent and are resolved quickly in the way I described in my last post. | ||
| Whippetlovr |
I am using Mobil 1 20W50 V Twin... cost me like $60 for the oil alone, what could I get thats better than THAT? (that's rhetorical... I already thought I had purchased the best) | ||
| Froggy |
I got two 1125's, and neither of them are difficult to find neutral. I do find the 08R to be slightly easier than my 09CR though. | ||
| Bigevildoer |
How hard are you lifting/pressing on the shifter? Mine requires the gentlest of touches or you blow right through into gear. My Yamaha has a definite "snick" as you pass through it - the Buell doesn't at all. | ||
| Kirb |
My 1125 is easier to find Neutral than any other bike I have owned. I clicks right in with little effort...cold, warm, rollups, up, down, etc. I used to find neutral too often on upshifts, but it's been much better of late. FJR is a close second. | ||
| Junkyrddog780 |
My 1125r is the easiest bike Ive ever had to find neutral. My 2002 bandit 1200 is a close 2nd. | ||
| Kicka666 |
Have you tried bleeding the clutch yet it may have some air in the slave cylinder. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Most false neutrals, including landing in the real neutral shifting from 1st to 2nd comes from lazy shifting. Do it like you mean it! I miss the 1st to 2nd shift more than I like to admit--I hate hitting the redline (or close to) before I realize it's in neutral and not 2nd. | ||
| Smoke4ndmears |
had this problem for a time after using motorex oil. slowly went away after switching to motul. not sure if the issue is related at all though. | ||
| Dktechguy112 |
i run amsoil 20w-50 in mine. My bro has a ktm 690, and i have a polaris quad with a ktm(rotax) engine, and we used to run that motorex oil in them, but at $18 a quart, I don't think its worth it. I'm just going to switch to amsoil in my ktm's. My 1125 runs great on amsoil, and i get it for $8.40 a quart. |
