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Tommy_k
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Disclaimer: Sry guys, been away for awhile. Had to ask, as I'm considering another set for coating. Are they interchangeable?

Thanks in advance BWB!
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Vinb
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think they are at least they look it
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Puddlepirate
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes.
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Dirty_john
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The wheels in my 09 1125R and 07 XB12R are the same with the reminder that the rear wheel runs the other way round and if fitting an XB wheel into an 1125 then you need the rear disc with the extra holes in to allow for rear calliper installation bolt access
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Nattyx1
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and then something changed for the '10 models? Or was it unique the the '10 CR?
I think there's conflicting info floating aroudn the web about this (yes, it's shocking, I know...)
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All 2010 XB and 1125's went to a slightly different rear wheel with 3 bearings. The wheel will fit previous years, you just need the 2010 1125 axle.
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Nattyx1
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Frog:
Just a guess, but I'm thinking that I already HAVE an axle -- at least I think I do. Otherwise, the rear wheel would most likely have come off at some point.

; )

In this case, if the external diameter of the bearing race is identical (mean the ID of race receptacle on the wheel is the same) for any year 1125 or XB, then all I actually need to do is get a fresh set o' proper bearings, flop the xb wheel so driveside/brakeside are correct, spoon on some slicks and I'm off to the races (semi-literally)?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, the 2003-09 wheel uses two smaller bearings than the 2010 wheel, and uses a different axle.



I don't know if the 03-09 wheel will work with the new axle or not.
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes you already have an axle...

but if you were to get a 2010 wheel and try to put it on anything other then a 10 it wouldnt work without the updated axle. they have made the pocket in the 10 wheels deeper to sandwich 2 bearings beside eachother on the drive side. and as far as i can tell. the older axles taper down right after passing through the first bearing, meaning that an old axle with new wheel would leave that inside bearing basically hanging out and doing nothing. i think the new axle has a longer shoulder so both bearings have some place to sit on the new axle.

thats my figuring anyway, i havent had a 10 axle in my hand, but i have seen the deeper pockets in the 10 wheel and having looked at my 08/09 axles im pretty sure that tappered part would need to be relocated farther towards the center of the wheel because of the second bearing on the drive side..
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

damnit i type slow! but it looks as though i was right about the shoulder!
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Nattyx1
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, well I am trying to do the opposite: put OLDER/XB used wheels on my '10.

Why? Because they're cheaper than buying new ones and I just want em for track days.

So I guess the question is will 2010 bearing sets fit properly in older wheels.

Someone in here must have tried this or can figure it out.. Right?

The config would be:
old wheel (xb or 1125)
new 2010 bearings
new 2010 axle.
new 2010 brake rotors

No?
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will not work. 2010 bearings are bigger and won't fit.
Use old wheel axle spacer and bearings.

Z
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Nattyx1
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ah HA! Ok Zac. Cool. So then the REST of the stuff is ok?

I just "pretend" that the rest of the bike isn't a 2010? I get:
older wheel
older bearing type
older axle type (and correct nut etc)
and I'm gtg?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What nut? Yes for a old wheel you would need (assuming its not already assembled) the right bearings, spacer, and finally the axle.
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