G oog le Buell 1125R Forum | Login/out | Topics | Search | Custodians | Register | Edit Profile


Buell Forum » 1125R Superbike Board » Archives 001 » Archive through March 16, 2010 » Lwell the bike made me look like a fool tonight « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rockstarblast1
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well for the past week its been high 50's and today it was high 60's. all my friends have been riding for a week or more now. not me i dont wanna take my nice new bike out on the not so clean salty streets. so finally tonight they get to to say ok. its rained a few times still warm out.. they come over as im putting my new heat shield on my fairing and wait around for me. i get it out of the basement (cuz i cant let my baby sit in the cold all winter) get it in the drive go to start it.... NOTHING. i had a damn battery tender on it ALL winter!!!! tenders light showed green like all was well! ok ill jump it ride for a while and we should be good, WRONG. jumped it and left it on the car for up to 5 or 10 min and the second i took off a jumper the damn thing would die! OK so i got to take the battery out... nope! how the heck do you get this damn thing out? im so mad. i have the newest bike. the nicest most expensive and the 09 cluster, and still dead. made them wait for like and hr and waisted there time. made me look dumb and now they throw in the harley buell jokes.. not a good start to the season for me... things sitting on a charger all night ill see what happens when i get off work. i have a feeling nothing good.. im temped to take the battery out and to work and put a 40amp charge on it all day... nvm, i cant get it out! fml and that wasnt smart ass i seriously forgot allreadt after typing that! ugh im soooo heated!!!! i shoulda just took my damn blast out! aleast that runs
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jrfitzny
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

blown fuse maybe?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rockstarblast1
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no because when the jumpers were on it connected to the car it was fine, just the second you disconected the jumpers it died cuz it has no power. guess the stator doesnt work like an alternator on a car. once its running its running??????????
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Buellishness
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you need to smoke a blunt thats just not that big a deal take a deep breath man!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Syonyk
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 02:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Battery's probably toast.

An alternator will provide power at low RPM, but the drain of a totally dead battery would take too much to leave it running.

Throw the bike in diagnostic mode (hold both cluster buttons when you turn it on) and go to the voltage reading. See what it's showing, or just throw a voltmeter on the battery.

... alternately, join the rest of us and take the bike to the Harley dealership for warranty "service."
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ridenusa4l
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 04:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

first of all make sure the battery cables are tightened and not loose AT ALL, becuase the slightest sign of looseness will make it not start...

alright, i had this happen to me...in order to get the battery out, you need to take the rear plastics of (only 5 troqs screws, which the tool is in the tool kit) then just manuver it to the side, becuase the locking mechanism is a PITA to get out from what ive seen. then take off the strap and take a deep breath because it takes patience to finagle the battery out between the cross member and fuse box, but it WILL come out, and getting it back in is ALOT easier...it takes about 15-30mins. to change the battery and all you need is the tool kit and a phillips-head screw driver (make sure to disconnect the battery...dont ask lol)

Jake

P.S.- they might make fun of you now, but once you do take it out and blow their doors off (especially in the corners) you'll get the last laugh ; ) ...i always do lol
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rockstarblast1
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well ill find out today when I nget home from work as for putting the bike in diagnostic mode, last night id turn the key and everything was black nothing. The bike is on a charger as we speak. And yes the termanals are on tight well were....So that means I'm not taking the battery anywhere.. so as for warranty work how did I manage that? Can't get the bike there, closest dealer is 45 min away. Have a feeling its gunna be a pita on getting a new battery for free... what's the odds they have one in stock?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ridenusa4l
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they'll have it...its a sportster battery lol

Jake
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rockstarblast1
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well ill find out if I'm making a call to the dealer today around 4 pm or not.... not like it matters its outside now... 54 degrees and raining well more like misting now but not riding weather.rain till monday
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kirb
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember those days...back in '99 when the M2 was the only bike I had and was working through the night so I could ride the next day. Now I avoid that problem by filling the garage up with bikes. Not exactly cost effective as bourbon is a much cheaper alternative.

I had a battery go guts up on the blue ridge parkway while under warranty. I was able to bump-start the bike and get it to a dealer. Be aware that they pro-rate tires and batteries as wear items when in warranty. You will still throw out some skins depending on how old the bike is.

To be fair, that same battery I had replaced 10 years ago is still working just fine in the M2.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rockstarblast1
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bike is a year old
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Blake
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't count how many similar stories I've heard of batteries gone kaput after being on a battery tender all Winter. It happened to my Dad, twice. I really think the battery tenders are not worth the trouble. I've never used one. Just put the bike on charge at 2A for a couple hours if it sits for longer than a month.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Mrbuell
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Blake how is your dad?? Still riding my old tuber???
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rockstarblast1
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's what I'm thinkin blake! There junk. From day one when I got it, it didn't seam to work. Had it on my quad and it didn't do anything.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Freight_dog
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have had good luck with Battery Tenders. My original 5 year old Yuasa on my Katana still fires her up every time. I don't leave it hooked up all winter, I take it out of the bike, put it indoors and hook up the charger in late Feb, early March and let it charge until the weather breaks. I gave my 1125 battery the same treatment and she fired right up.

Like I said, 5 year old battery that runs like new. I have a bad feeling that your problem may be something worse.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cataract2
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

His problem may be nothing other that just a crap battery that was crap from day one. It happens. Just replace it with a new one, charge the new one to full, put it in the bike and if you feel so moved. Check what the charging volts are while the bike is at idle. Should be ~13v.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Blake
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Ed Ralph is doing great. He's enjoyed the S3 a lot. We're currently rebuilding the top end due to oil pump drive gear failure.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Daggar
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The battery is pretty easy to remove, once you get the tail section out of the way, like Jake said. The real PITA for me was that damn battery strap, but even that wasn't TOO bad.

Once you've done an engine rotation, all the other maintenance stuff will seem like a cake walk.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

D_adams
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the rotation.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Tpoppa
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lots of motorcycle batteries are sold in March & April. Happens to lots of riders.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Drawkward
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you had it hooked up to the car while the car was running there is a damn good chance you messed up some of your electronics. Motorcycle batteries don't like charging much more than 2A. A car's alternator is typically rated around 50 to 80 amperes.

If you decide to take it to the dealer, do NOT tell them you had it hooked up to a running car.

Nonetheless, good luck getting everything sorted. It suuucks not having this bike running!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rockstarblast1
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yepp well wish my friend would of told me that! He was standing right there and is a saleman for a dealer.. I hope nothin is messed up ughhh
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Drawkward
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Eh, just don't tell them, haha!

I had my '08 in the shop recently because the battery wasn't holding charge and it turns out that not only was the battery bad but so was the voltage regulator. So, there could be many different problems, but most likely it's the simplest.

If you're still under warranty take it to the dealer and have them test it. If it tests failed then you'll get a new battery.

Good luck!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rockstarblast1
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am for another year.. and that's what ill do
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Eece_ret
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dead cell in the battery. No continuity in the circuit.

Good luck!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rockstarblast1
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

guess it was just really drained... got home took it off the charger, hooked the terminals back up and she fired right up! now there is a bigger issue... see my other thread "front end is popping"
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Redbuell1203
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

forks popping or engine popping?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rock, if that battery was drained to dead like that there's a good chance that it may be done for. Most likely it's ability to hold a charge is finished. You might want to consider replacing it.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rockstarblast1
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well when its nice ill takee it to the dealer and see what they do for me, no way am I takin my own money and goin to buy another hd pos overpriced battery tho. And forks popping not engine... that thread really didn't take off tho???
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rock, have them load test the battery. That would certainly tell if it's bad, or if you have access to one you could do that as well. As for the battery, if you want to get an alternate to the HD one. Check Batteries Plus. They carry the batteries we need (sealed AGM). There are some websites that have been posted on here with those batteries as well that are less expensive.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Daggar
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was going to get an aftermarket battery, but it was made in China. At least the Harley battery is made here. You can get them at a better price from one of the sponsors here. I forget which ones offer a 10% discount. Liberty, maybe. I got mine from a local dealer, and paid $100. My car battery is twice that, so I wasn't complaining.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try my truck batteries. Lowest price I saw was $70, but I need 2 of them.
« Previous Next »

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Bold text Italics Underline Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image

Username: Posting Information:
This is a public posting area. Enter your username and password if you have an account. Otherwise, enter your full name as your username and leave the password blank. Your e-mail address is optional.
Password:
E-mail:
Options: Post as "Anonymous" (Valid reason required. Abusers will be exposed. If unsure, ask.)
Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action:

Topics | Last Day | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Rules | Program Credits Administration