| Author | Message | ||
     07xb12ss |
ive read a bit about you R guys on the various wheelie threads and i have a question......... on my CR in 1st gear i have no problem poppin it up with power alone and since i cant balance it or shift during a wheelie yet a good one will run out between 50-60 mph, the front wheel will land, and ill shift and take off..... but i cant get that front wheel to come up in 2nd gear with power alone which I know i have read about you R guys doing. the front suspension will lift and the handlebars will get to dancin a little (wish someone would make a stabilizer for this bike) but that is it. could it be due to the lower gearing? having less resistance due to bigger rear sprocket? does that make any sense at all? and do you think its possible that is the reason i cant power wheelie in 2nd? | ||
| Ccryder |
Practice and technique. At 6k on my r in 2nd, I can go wfo and the front end easily comes up. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I have a CR and have yet to get the nose to come up without cresting over a hill. | ||
| Chadhargis |
I've had the front end come up on my CR powering out of a turn. It WILL come up in second gear. | ||
| D_adams |
And it WILL come up in 3rd gear, 75 mph, slide back on the seat an inch, wfo and up it will go. This is on an 08 R, showing 128 hp at the wheel. | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
+ 100 D_adams My 08' r, when it had the 08' engine, under the right conditions (lower elevation and temp) could pick it up in 3rd at around 6k rpm to WFO, scoot back and pull up and she'll power up to the balance point!! I LOVE TORQUE!!! hahah Mine WAS also putting out 128hp at the wheel, however with the 09' engine it has WAY more pick up down low and is WAY smoother and quieter than the 08' engine...just need to dyno tune it now hahahaa Jake | ||
| Froggy |
I have also brought up my CR at highway speeds just going WFO in 3rd leaning back. | ||
| Smoke |
there are 2 options for front stabilizer-GPR and Ohlins. loosen your grip on the bars is another method, the bike wants to straighten out on it's own. not a wheelie guy but when the bike crests a rise on the racetrack the front comes up and carries a few inches off the ground for a bit. lots of fun!! tim | ||
| Deuceal |
I have an '08 1125R, on moderately hard acceleration, the front wheel raises off the ground quite readily. Even in 3rd, under hard acceleration, the front end gets light enough that any bump in the road will float the front wheel. Haven't ridden a CR; however with the lower secondary gearing, it should be easier to get torque to the rear wheel to wheelie without any effort. | ||
| Samcol |
08 1125r comes up real nice in 1st or 2nd with a bit of clutch. I usually start them at about 4k rpm I think. (Message edited by samcol on September 28, 2009) | ||
| Chadhargis |
Yes...the front end will easily "skate" on you over rises and with my big torso as a sail...at very high speeds if I don't really tuck in. Good advice on loosening your grip Smoke. That's exactly what I do. The more you fight it, the more likely you are to end up with a "ghost rider", where the bike spits you off, then goes perfectly straight. | ||
| Bigblock |
My bike power wheelies in first at will, and 2nd over 6 or 6500 rpm. With the first flash and no inner airbox cover, it would power wheelie 2nd at 5,000 rpm. Flat ground, watch the windscreen don't smack you... My bike LOVES the GPR damper, and the tank slapper I had, believe me, I was barely touching the bars. I always try and ride with a relaxed grip. My fingers were big circles of relaxation around the bars, as the oscillations worsened, I eased my grip, by the time it stopped, I was basically not touching the bars. If I was holding on tight, I would have come off. I had a bad rear shock, I think it blew on the ride a short time before the tank slapper, might have been the cause. (Message edited by bigblock on September 28, 2009) | ||
| Dtx |
Some of my buddies always ask me how I wheelie so much. "Are you clutching or power wheelieing!?" I just smile and say its the torque. In reality, I run 1st gear up to about 7K, and "power" shift quickly into second using the clutch. Sometimes it comes up so slow (controlled) its like it is slow motion. Which really gets them talking.   | ||
| Dalton_gang |
Excellent photo!!  | ||
| T_man |
Come on, lets be serious - 2nd gear roll ons - Ok, its plausible in the right conditions with a tuned 1125... however... 3rd gear power wheelies? As in 'roll on the throttle into a wheelie'? Either your bikes have a nitrous sniffing problem or a lot of bar stool stories are being told here! The last few (160hp RWHP) Jap liter bikes I rode wouldn't roll-on in 3rd. Someone musta spiked to kool-aid in here!  | ||
| Fresnobuell |
3RD GEAR wheelies a stretch. | ||
| Froggy |
There is gonna be a lot of stretching going on in Buelltoberfest Assuming I can adapt to the higher altitude, it was a bitch to bring up my Uly unless the conditions were just right, even then it was a little shaky and I bobbed a bit. | ||
| D_adams |
All I can say is, whatever. Been there, done that, just about pooped my britches when I did it. | ||
| Dalton_gang |
"right conditions with a tuned 1125" right conditions yes, tuned no. My bike does loose a little power when it's hot out but when the AT is below 80 degrees 2nd gear power wheelies are almost happening by accident. 3rd gear power wheelies get really easy when the temps outside drop below 70 deg. Maybe some day I will be able to tune my bike for a small hp gain and then I will always have the power. | ||
| No_rice |
The last few (160hp RWHP) Jap liter bikes I rode wouldn't roll-on in 3rd. Someone musta spiked to kool-aid in here! or maybe you need to go on a diet... | ||
| Amrra12 |
I'm a fairly good stunter my suggestion is use your clutch and remember a wheelie it all about the brake not the throttle! me on my F4I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvn8ASSBtjw (Message edited by AMRRA#12 on September 29, 2009) | ||
| Chadhargis |
Damn....where are the curves in those videos? Around here, you'd end up in a guard rail or someones front yard if ya tried that.  | ||
| T_man |
Maybe there is some confusion in the definition of a 'roll on wheelie' among us. Personally I don't call I spazzy 6 inch fart or anything below say 18" a 'real wheelie' furthermore my definitions are as follows: 1) Snap wheelie - rev up, drop revs to appropriate 'sweet spot' RPM then snap throttle WFO 2) Clutch assisted wheelie - pretty much self explanatory! 3) Roll-on wheelie - a smooth application going to WFO where the bike rears up purely on power alone with no external outside assistance For me there is nothing better than being able to do a true roll-on wheelie in any of the higher gears - but the bikes capable of putting down the required power to do this are few and far between. That being said; perhaps elevation plays a large roll in this. I can't wait to get my bike on the dyno but I am sure its quite stout as I can pull some liter bikes through every gear and run the 1/4 over 130mph fairly consistently. For reference; It won't 'roll on wheelie' in 2nd but can be snapped up above 6k. 3rd over crests.. All at 2000ft elevation - soooo for you guys who can't understand how all these nice fellas are pulling these 2nd / 3rd gear monsters.. don't feel bad.. your bike isn't a lemon - and your far from alone! PS. No_Rice - thanks for the friendly advice.. LOL If I was out of shape (or a woman) I might not have found it as funny! PPS. I stand by my (spiked) koolaid appraisal - not that there is anything wrong with koolaid... its delicious Later! | ||
| Ccryder |
T_man I guess the altitude is getting to your attitude, as well as your 1125's power. V-twins do have different power characteristics that allow these wheelies. Koolaid at the right time is good. BTW, suspension settings can also have a big play in raising the front end since a stiffer rear set up will transfer more power to the ground versus the suspension. | ||
| Dalton_gang |
Ccr is right on with the suspension settings affecting the "ability" factor. Just to be clear, mine does "roll-on wheelies" in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd when the conditions are right and they are not little pops or whatever. 3rd gear almost always needs help though. Help meaning a little pull on the bars or lofting. | ||
| Chadhargis |
I've not tried to wheelie mine intentionally, but it WILL come up in second gear on the power (pure power...no trickery) quite easily. Now, stoppies are just easy as hell, and FUN!! | ||
| Ds_tiger |
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids. individual&VideoID=54285680 | ||
| Cyclonedon |
third gear wheelies? NOT on my bike! I don't carry any spare underwear with me!  | ||
| Chadhargis |
OUCH! Never try a stoppie at those speeds. | ||
| Pizzaboy |
elevation plays a pretty significant role in roll-on wheelie ability. reno nevada is 4500 feet. i went to chico california last saturday for a track day, and i have to say, my bike's front end floated around the track wayyy more often than it does at the track in the reno area. |
