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Avc8130
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 08 has some clutch weep. I spoke to my dealer about it when I was in for front brake recall. They said they would order parts and fix it. Is the 2010 clutch cover different to help with this? I know they already had a Rev B for 2009 to fix it, but the 2010 looks different again. Should I insist on a specific component?
ac
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Clarkjw
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had my clutch replace July 3rd and it looks like the 2010. Very thick with larger diameter. I don't think anything can leak from it.
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Avc8130
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Excellent.
ac
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's a fix, but not another new cover. The revB cover with a new piston/ sleeve assembly is the latest and greatest.
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Avc8130
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope that is what shows up when my dealer goes to order parts.

Will a clutch weep strand me? I guess if I get low enough on fluid I would have no clutch.
ac
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just got a call from my service department after my 2nd email requesting they inquire about the latest piston/sleeve fix. They apparently just did the O-ring fix as late as last week on a 1125r.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is the part number posted a few weeks ago--

X2086.1AM - Hydraulic Piston/Sleeve Kit

Now we also have this--

2010 clutch cover 

R0022A.3AM CLUTCH COVER ASSY Retail Price:$297.85
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

R0022A.3AM CLUTCH COVER ASSY Retail Price:$297.85

Is this Rev.C or what?

I actually cut and pasted from the Badweb (wtih the appropriate part number) in my first email. It is sort of weird to be more updated then the service department. He's probably irritated that I was telling him that the fix he did to the 1125r last week isn't the most current.
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Avc8130
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heading to the dealer tomorrow. What solution to the clutch weep should I be asking for?

Do I want
X2086.1AM (does this require Rev B cover?)?
or
R0022A.3AM?

I am lost. LOL
ac
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Spectrum
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X2086.1AM - Hydraulic Piston/Sleeve Kit is the weep permanent fix and it does require the rev B cover. I have had it installed.

R1029A.1AM is the part number for the Rev B clutch cover. Also installed on my bike from a previous attempt to fix the weep.

R0022A3AM - Well who knows what that part number is for. If the tech try's to order the rev B cover part number above (R1029A.1AM), it will give him the new number if that part number has been superseded.

Or perhaps Zac can look it up and let us know.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

R0022A.3AM is a current rev clutch cover for the '10s.
R1029A.1AM is a current rev clutch cover for 08-09 1125s.
X2086.1AM is the latest version of the piston kit.

All 3 #s are active, I'm guessing about years for the clutch covers.
I have no way to confirm yet, as I don't have 2010 parts books yet.

I looked at both covers from pix i have and see no outward differences. Dunno...

Z
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Avc8130
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac,
Is it correct that R1029A.1AM is necessary to install X2086.1AM? I am just trying to figure out how to help the dealer solve my issue.
ac
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Crowley
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 06:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would Annony clarify this please? 2 months ago Buell UK told me I was to go for the latest clutch piston leak proof modification in my '08. It seems that some people think this has been superceeded. If this is the case why, were there any problems with the intermediate solution?
There's a long rant on UKBEG since the dealers don't know what's going on and Customer Services just advise you to consult a Dealer
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Steeleagle
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was talking about this with my dealer's service manager yesterday and he checked all 3 number. Same result: No indication of applicability. My question is how those of us with weepers proceed towards a fix? My service guy says there's no tech notice, etc. issued, so he's left unguided as to how Buell "suggests" this is resolved. I'm nowhere near critical on my condition, but I obviously want to get it addressed before the warranty runs out. I want to avoid a situation where my service folks simply replace a gasket or try some other fix, etc. knowing that there's a more permanent solution designed and identified out there. A one-trip fix is what I'm after.
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Avc8130
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just dropped my bike off and pointed this out. The service manager said the same thing: "no technical bulletin, no problem". He also started down "this bike has seen excessive track use". From the latest advertising I think Erik would be pissed if the bike didn't!

They are looking it over today. I will post tomorrow with what their solution is.
ac
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It has not only seen "extensive track use" it was essentially a track only (it was trailered to the track) race bike that was crashed at 120MPH.

While that would THRILL Buell to no end it, at the same time, excludes any damage as a result of "use beyond intended purpose" from warranty coverage.

I just want to make certain that the innocent reader on the internet, not knowing these facts, doesn't think the dealer or Buell is somehow shorting you of something you deserve when in fact they are busting ass to get everything they can taken care of to the best of their ability.

Court
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

The service manager said the same thing: "no technical bulletin, no problem".




By the way . . . that is 100% accurate.
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Avc8130
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,
It isn't that the dealer isn't busting their ass. I appreciate what they are doing for me.
I guess the p/o did not fully divulge to me the previous history of the bike. I saw the tire wear and asked if he had tracked the bike. He said he had taken it to the track once, did a day at NJMP. He said he changed the plastics to white because he really liked the looks when he saw the 09. Most guys do trailer their street bikes to the track for track days. If in fact any of the issues with the bike were due to track damage I would agree completely. Buell should never have to cover something damaged in a crash, should that be a leaking radiator that is obviously mangled or a clutch cover that is leaking and all skidded up (although plenty of posts on this board show otherwise).

My bike does not show any track damage. All of the plastics line up perfectly. The bike rides true and straight. It handles like a dream. None of the case covers are scratched or injured. Everything seems like it was repaired well.

The only issue I truly have with them is that I pointed this out to them the last time I was there and they just didn't act on it so I will probably have to go back a third time. Not the end of the world, just an inconvenience.

ac

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Avc8130
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"By the way . . . that is 100% accurate."

Is that really 100% accurate? Is that to say that anything brought in with an issue is seen as "no issue" until the factory takes the lead and issues a bulletin?

I am truly curious. That was the impression that I got from the service manager. He made it seem like nothing could be wrong with the bike if Buell didn't say it was.

I understand the way warranty works:
Customer brings in bike.
Dealer evaluates and sends to Buell.
Buell approves repair.
Customer goes home happy

But is that to say service dealers don't do work outside of technical bulletins? Because that is the impression he gave me.
ac
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bet is that you misunderstood.

(Message edited by court on July 31, 2009)
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Avc8130
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

More than likely. Words on a forum can be hard to interpret properly...seriously.


ac
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Court
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>More than likely. Words on a forum can be hard to interpret properly...seriously.

Precisely. And experience has shown me, over the last 22 years, that it's usually prudent to not provide play-byplay accounts of these things during the time they are unfolding . . simply too many balls in the air at once.

I can assure you that the folks at Liberty, no dummies themselves, are getting top notch support.

While your waiting . . . wander through a forum for another brand and see how it goes in the "other world".

: )

Tact? . . . hehehehe . . . I see you have never met me.

Tact?

I like that . . . . I'll have to try it sometime . . . NOT!
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Avc8130
Posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL!

Good call Court. I am anxiously awaiting hearing back from Liberty. I miss my baby already!

I will with hold all further comments until the situation is resolved. And then I will make my own thread praising all involved!


ac
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