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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so i KNOW this bike has the power to do a wheelie. but my question is how many dare to do it? or have done it? also whats the best way to? clutch or power? with a power one, where in the rpm range does it come up? seein im still on break in i havent passed 6 grand yet. and im not gunna lie i have NEVER went WOT, the things gotmore balls then im useto at only half.lol so im almost asking for a how-to on it with THIS bike. what gear do you ride it in? so on and so forth. also who has done a stoppie, endo or what ever you want to call it.
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Socoken
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wheelies in first gear are pretty tricky. It comes up WAY too fast at WOT. You have to do almost a 3/4 roll on till the front lofts. I like to do them in second. If you whack it WFO at 35-40 and fan the clutch just a bit, it comes up nice and smooth. If you ride in second, and chop the throttle at about 50-55 and then hammer it, and give the bars a lil tug, she climbs real nice.
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i cant seem to get them to do any...
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have already worn out my steering head bearings with my not so easy landings.

Few stoppies but lots of wheelies.(every ride) Im too chicken and not skilled enough to do like No Rice but I usually just power them up for up to a few hundred feet in 2nd gear. 1st gear is tricky so be careful and 3rd is so exhilarating that you will be yelling in your helmet!



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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you whack it WFO at 35-40 and fan the clutch just a bit, it comes up nice and smooth.

what do you mean "fan the clutch" sry new to this. iv never really even tried this before.

no rice whats your way?
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Geforce
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just be careful in first, the torque comes on real fast. I like to go to a nice secluded area *IE: SAFE* and work on them in 1st and 2nd, I have been on this bike a while now and it stills takes me a couple of tries to get the first gear power wheelie to look decent. You are going to have some hard landings at first, just remember to keep the bars straight and don't hold them too tight or too loose, just nice even grip. This season I plan on adding a little more clutch to it, but this bike for sure will stand up with throttle only.
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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

this bike for sure will stand up with throttle only

thats what i keep hearin but it doesnt want to anywhere under 6 grand (unless im doing it wrong) it sure throws me backwards lol but no front end comming up.
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Ds_tiger
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here- I tried gassin' er up good-


Mom caught the action on her Kodak



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Socoken
Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fanning the clutch means pinning the throttle WFO while in gear and just bringing the clutch in enough to let the revs jump a bit and letting it flick back out. The subsequent jump in power is usually enough to start the weight transfer to the rear wheel.


When I went on my first ride after that break in oil change, I just had to roll it wide open. The front came up so fast, I thought I had been rear ended by low flying jet!
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Buellsrule
Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wheelies should never be learned on a nice new sport bike. Get yourself a good 4 stroke trail bike and master it first. Then transfer what you've learned over to the street. Learning on the street you will crash. No one learns without crashing. You want to crash your 1125R? I started out on a small quad, then big 2 stroke dirt bike(not recommended for learning), then large quad, then my S3. Now the 1125R. I repeat, do not learn on your most expensive bike. It will only get more expensive.

Be careful,

Frank
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Thedavyboy
Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love the no helmet stunts .
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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea no helmets are stupid. And I agree about wreckin a new bike. I just keep hearin how easy it is to just power it up. I have a pretty powerful atv 2 stroke but. Its an auto. I tried it with my blast but it just didn't have the power and I wasn't fond of the idea of popin the cutch in first on it.
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know that it`s not an excuse but my pic is me at like 10mph on my driveway. Normally I`m a bit more protected.
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Georgehitch17
Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just wait till you get about 1,000+ miles on it the bike really comes to life.
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Mrncgy1
Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wheelies should never be learned on a nice new sport bike

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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well by popular vote i think i wont know how to ever wheelier lol(unless i get rich and buy a diff bike to try it on) i guess there rly not as easy on this bike as everyone made it sound
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D_adams
Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, they are easy on this bike. I weigh about 200 lbs and 3rd gear wheelies are not hard to get. Roughly 70-75 mph, 3rd gear and 7000-7500 rpm, slide back on the seat all the way, crack the throttle wide open and it will come up. If it don't, try tugging on the bars just a bit. I scared the crap outta myself the first time, all I saw was stars since it was almost midnite when I did it. It came up a LOT faster than I expected. 1st and 2nd gear wheelies only require rolling on the throttle to get it to come up. One other thing, don't lean over the airbox, sit more upright, this will move your center of gravity rearward and make doing wheelies easier. Another thing to remember is to let your arms bend/flex as the front comes up. I stiff-armed it the first time and as a result, saw some really bright stars overhead. If it gets out of control, ie; climbs up too fast, just tap the rear brake pedal a smidgen and it will come back down.
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Ponti1
Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rockstar, they are definitely as easy as everyone says. I'm in the same boat as you, but am very leary of laying down the bike I have to pay on every month.

Try 2nd gear, around 5-6 grand, and just crack the throttle open and give a little tug on the bars if at first you fail to bring her up. Be very ready to back off the gas, and covering the rear brake is also a good idea.

Without question, she'll have the front lofted. I have not been real good at keeping it up, but getting it there is not difficult.
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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i always keep my brakes cover, i just hope it doesnt scare me. i also would not like to drop a bike that i just bought and pay so much for every money. but at the same time id like to be able to do something "cool" on my bike. i have a good number of friends that have ninjasn and r6's and cbr's and so on and they actually think my bike is really cool and i get a "wow thats a big bike" every once in a while lol. but they ALL ask "did you do a wheelie yet" now idk if they can or did and they dont make fun when i say no, but i just wanna be able to say yea lol
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dude you got it all wrong. Just ride it. The harder you thrash it, the more wheelies will just happen by accident (just be prepared!). The more it "happens", the more your skills will develop
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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well thats the thing i dont like to "beat" on my stuff or "thrash it" and iv never gone WOT because just taking it up to 6k your speeding and im not too fond of tickets.. i dont even rly want to do them on the road. i was planning on going to a big open parking lot and doing them where its safer....
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Bigschwerm
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its not beating it...thats what its built for.

Drive it like you stole it and it will treat you well
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that you bought the wrong bike or something!

Ride that beast as hard as you dare to and keep the oil changed! The amount of abuse that you will do to your Helicon in a whole year is probably equal to 1 or 2 days of practice that a race team puts on theirs so I wouldn`t worry about that part.

As far as speeding I don`t know what to tell you. But I can say that running through a 40 mph sweeper in 2nd and nailing it as you pull through the apex of the turn will result in one hell of a kick ass wheelie as you come out and a good shift into 3rd at red line will usually result in another with a little coaxing.



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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But is that where it usually comes up? Past 6 grand more towards redline? And I don't think I got the wrong bike lol I love this thing I'm jus very cautious and like to baby my toys lol I don't like payin for broken stuff that could be avoided
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Bigdog_tim
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I highly recommend attending an "OnOneWheel" class. They have them in Cali and in NY (or at least they used to). They teach you how to wheelie - power up primarily. It cost around 500 for a day - they provide the bike (you provide the gear). By the end of the day, I was riding wheelies 500 feet (could have easily gone further).
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Samcol
Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellsrule's advice about getting a 4 stroke dirt bike is the best imo. You can fall off a few times at slow speeds and just shake it off if you have helmet and gear.

The feel of the balance point can be found more quickly, less expensively, and safer compared to a street bike.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If these engines couldn't spin 10.5k rpm, they would have set the rev limit lower.

Next time you ride, go bang that beast off the rev limiter. You'll break every speed limit here in Ohio in first gear.

BTW Rockstar, I see you're right up route 8 from me. I live a few miles from Blossom right by the Cuyahoga valley. You need to come down here for a ride when this weather breaks.
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Backnblack
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Learn to wheelie on a mountain bike. Start by pedaling as slow as possible, yank on the bars while hammering down on the pedals. You want to flip off the back of the seat and land on your feet still holding the bars. After you've mastered this, jam the rear brake right before you fall off, this will bring the front wheel back to earth. No Huffy crap, you must have a brake that will lock up the rear wheel. Now you just keep pedaling while feathering the brake keeping the front wheel in the balance zone, all the while looking down the road, not at your wheel. In no time your now an expert wheelieman. Next transfer to a MX bike, not a street bike. Good luck and enjoy.
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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW Rockstar, I see you're right up route 8 from me. I live a few miles from Blossom right by the Cuyahoga valley. You need to come down here for a ride when this weather breaks.

sounds good. i work right off highland rd in macedonia so im not far at all shoot me a pm
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Rockstarblast1
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well i did it! lol i was so damn happy it was crazy. it was only a power wheelie in frist gear but thats how you start im told.
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