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Xb9
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We need some data on the latest calibrations.
Please post up your AFV values (from Diag mode) Do not post until you have at least 300 miles of riding (or 300 miles since the current calibration was flashed).

Please post location/year/model/mileage /Front AFV/Rear AFV.

Thanks!

Cleveland, Ohio /'09 / 1125R / 660 mi. / 110.5F / 110.5R
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Thurstonbuell
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mentor , Ohio / 2008 / 25R / 9000 mi / 100F / 100R
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Redscuell
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"BTW, my experience on this beast for learning is NOT steady state cruise - just the opposite. That may have worked in earlier years, but not on these." XB9, I've transferred your advice from the previous thread so those of us newbies can "keep it all together".
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good idea, Dave.

near Denver, CO(5000')/2008/1125R/13.8k/100/100
Loretta is a "first week build" 11/6/2007 was her Birthday.

She got a new drive belt (my F-U) at ~300 miles.
She got the mapping reflash and a new front exhaust cam at 12.4k
She got a new (09) IC at 13.2k
Exhaust(OEM) opened into rear chamber and inner airbox removed.
Dyno'd at 700 and 7000 miles - 126.8/127.8 HP

Z

(Message edited by zac4mac on November 14, 2008)
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just FWIW. Stock 09 CR.

Corpus Christi, TX (alt 20ft)/2009/1125CR/1400mi/ 105F / 105R

Inner Airbox out, no other mech. mods.

Rob

(Message edited by carbonbigfoot on November 14, 2008)
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Thurstonbuell
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zac ,

I forgot all about that , mine just her birthday as well ,

Shes had the first and second flash , new clutch hub , rims , tires and now a recently developed battery draining issue , they will be checking that along with another tech support issue I have called into Buell

Just waiting to get my work and weather coordinated to ride her in to the dealership .
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Eaton_corners
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chattanooga,TN/2008/1125R/5000/100F/105R
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Chevycummins
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kalamazoo, MI. Dec. 07 build 100/100
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Steeleagle
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ft Wayne, IN/2008/1125R/3297 mi/105F/105R

Bike is bone stock and my F/R AFVs have ALWAYS been locked at 105 from day 1, out of the box, pre-flash, post-flash, post miles, post cereal...
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

early 2008, Jersey, 500' 100/100
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Slypiranna
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steeleagle,

I just wish to understand your post as best as possible...as I'm still a little in wonder! : )

After each flash, WITH AFV resets (meaning, back to 100/100), as is common procedure...

Your bike has always gone right back to 105/105?
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Sci
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What does the "AFV" mean. the higher the better? or the lower. Too lazy to read thru archives.

Dallas TX /2008/1125R/1700 mi/100f&r

stock filter, did my own exhaust mod (using stock)
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Slypiranna
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sci,

Yup, your lazy dude and nope, your exhaust mod didn't do anything to the AFV's if they are still 100/100.

AFV=Adaptive Fuel Value...the Learning and correction portion of this ecu.

With key off, Hold BOTH the toggle and mode keys down while turning the ignition key ON.

You should see diag on the screen...toggle thru to F & R AFV's.

100= No correction to base map fueling in Open Loop.

105= + 5% fueling addition to base maps in open loop.

95= - 5% fueling deletion to base maps in open loop.

All LEARNED by Close Loop Feedback.
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Jmr1283
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

maine 08 1125r sea level. 100f/100r
was 100f/105r before last reflash
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01xjbuell
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

9??? miles, k&n-->inner airbox removed-->XB fuel ring trim piece?, no 02's, home exhaust drill/chop

dynoed @ 129 & 130 running leeeeeean
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Steeleagle
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your bike has always gone right back to 105/105?

Yep. I've never seen it at any other values. If it was reset at the dealer during re-flashes, by the time I checked it next, they were at 105/105. FYI: I've done the 3500 rpm 3rd gear extended runs that pre-reflash #3 helped out driveability, but had no impact on the numbers. I've also tried it post-reflash #3. I know I spoke about it briefly with XB9 in Mentor, and maybe I'm just too sensitive to seeing all others having values less than that, but I can't get away from thinking it's odd. The bike runs fine.

(Message edited by steeleagle on November 14, 2008)
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Spectrum
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Charlotte, NC 08 bone stock with 3rd reflash and 10500 miles. Front 85.5 Rear 89.5.
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Xbswede
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hillsboro, OR (78 ft elev.) / July-08' / 1125R / 3400 miles / 100F 100R.

1200 of thous miles are on the new flash.

Stock Exhaust cut open with 3" tip.

I also have an open airbox and K&N filter for the last 100 miles or so.

(Message edited by xbswede on November 16, 2008)
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Ekruizenga
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

5500 miles

used to be 100/100 now after 3rd flash and now cold weather 94/99.5
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Ponti1
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Beaver Falls, PA / 2008 / 1125R / 7000 mi / 100F / 100R
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Spank
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hartford, Wi. 2008 1125R - 1127mi - 100R, 100F
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Tasmaniac
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tasmania Australia Jan 08 Build / 12000klm / 3000klm since third flash front 84.5 rear 94.5

Regards Brett
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Lecanadysbcglobalnet
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Houston, Texas/1125R/Aug 08/1154mi since flash/F105/R105/ denoid & no internal cover
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Slypiranna
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xb9...you getting all this?

Look at Tas...he's also down a little on power now?

What's up with Spectrum? How's it running?

(Message edited by slypiranna on November 15, 2008)
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Xb9
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, getting it. There's something I see that I have speculated on since the middle of summer....

I could assume the ones that have lower
fuel requirements (lower AFV's) are not putting out as much power anymore.

Tas had 9K Kilometers before the corrected calibration...

Spectrum had ? miles before the corrected calibration....

What's running through my mind? I'll leave it at that.
10% with a gradual degradation may not be readily noticeable seat of the pants on the street, the dyno numbers would tell.

The more data we can get here the better.
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01xjbuell
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, my bike was running lean before removing the 02's I was thinking back and have not re-dynoed the bike w/o the O2s. She was @ 100/100 w/ O2s and 105/105 w/0 O2's. Just realized I left out the AFVs in my above post, yeah im a bonehead. Supposed to be going in for service 3rd reflash and wondering if I even want it.
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Slypiranna
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, you want it...trust US.

Archives show all the details but since you probably don't have the time to search....

Just get into a dealer and get the latest update and then post AFV's after a couple hundred miles.

I'd wager that you'll be rewarded right after rolling out of the dealership.
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01xjbuell
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Sly I've been watching the posts and maybe needed a little prodding. She runs a little lean (damn front pipe gets hoooooot) but 3rd gear power wheelies are too much fun to risk. Thanks for the input. I will come back and post results as soon as everything is done. Granted thats if I can get the front end thunk and nasty front brake shudder fixed too!
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Spectrum
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine is running great. I had about 9K miles before the 3rd recalibration. The AFV's went to 85/90 by the time I got home after the recalibration (30 miles). By the way, they have consistently been 85/90 since I have owned the bike (all 3 calibrations).

It has thrown an IAC System Error once since the recalibration. Happened when I restarted the bike after a fill-up.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 02:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder if the CA calibration has lowered the AFV for emissions sake versus 49 state bikes? Mine is 93.5/90 currently...the first time I have seen a front value higher than the rear....Cold weather should increase the number? More O2, more fuel?

How have the AFV of CA bikes been post reflash? Anyone?
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