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Choppercz
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 1125 is my 1st bike, so someone please help me understand why my rear tire is completely bald and showing the metal threads at 6000 miles. I have never done any burnouts either. Is that normal for a motorcycle tire?
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Boltrider
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

6K miles is a lot for a Corsa III tire, even if you ride it gently. Those are high performance street tires, but the downside is they don't last very long.
Because they use soft rubber compounds, the rubber literally peels off over time.
Time for some new rubber.
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Buellborn
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

6000 was good, rejoice!!
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Xnoahx
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get a nice sport touring tire for some more mileage, continental road attacks or pilot roads are good. They wont hold a corner as well as the corsas but for day to day use and street twisties they will treat you well.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought the Corsa III's had the same center compound that make up the regular Diablos? The regular Diablos on my XB were taken off at about 5200 miles and still had 25-30% tread left.
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Pridayr
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had really good experiences with the Conti RoadAttack. Really liked the way they handled, and got reasonable wear out of em. The stock rear tire that came on my XB12S was gone in 2500 miles. Just think of tires, rear tires in particular as a consumable.

Rob
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4300 miles on my bike and the 3rd front and 4th rear are setting beside me in need of being put on the bike sometime soon. that does include 2 track days though.

i think you did good with 6000 on one set, but thats just me.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4,100 on my first Corsa III
4,700 on my second

Both down to the cords

From what I understand the Corsa III has regular sportbike rubber in the middle and race compound rubber on the edges.
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Pizzaboy
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Congrats on 6k miles!! My first rear lasted exactly 4k before the cords started wearing!
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Choppercz
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Luckily I already had ordered another Corsa III about 2 months ago. So she is in the shop right now getting her new tire put on. I will go pick her back up later 2day. Thanks for all the feedback. I guess I should be happy that I got 6K on that tire.
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Pyrateryderzmc
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeppers!

The mixed compound high performance tire gives you added dry pavement traction when you really want to drop your knee and cut that frikken curve, but the down side is the quick wearing. I choose the protection of knowing they stick to the road Vs the cost of a new tire.

Gotta love them Pirelli Corsa III tires. Just replaced both my rear and front.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope it wasn't your local HD/Buell dealer. Mine only wanted $380 to change my rear last weekend, but that was with a Corsa III at full retail--or possibly more as they have gotten in the wonderful habit of charging 10-15% MORE than retail.
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Choppercz
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ordered the tire off the internet. Only spent $160 for it. If my memory serves me correctly, the dealer wanted $230. I don't know who else to trust wit my baby. So I always end up at my local HD/Buell dealer.
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Choppercz
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And the $230 was the cost without labor. The cost would have been closer to $300 with the labor fees added on.
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Doerman
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is probably too far for you but there is a CycleGear in Bridgeton, MO. By the St Louis airport.

I've trusted my Buell wheels to CycleGear for years now and they have done good. You'll have to take the wheel off though.

I looked a little closer. There is a CycleGear in Lexana, KS. And that should be a lot closer for you!

(Message edited by doerman on October 02, 2008)
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Choppercz
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't have a bike stand to take the wheels off. Something else I need to purchase. I had no idea motorcycles were so expensive. Fells like I have another girlfriend now.....
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Daggar
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, except a motorcycle is fun ALL the time.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, and you can ride your friend's and yours won't get jealous.
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Pridayr
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You don't have to take the Bike to dinner before a ride...

Bike never want's to "talk"...

Etc...

Rob
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Jlnance
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that normal for a motorcycle tire?

Yes. They aren't like car tires.

I don't have a bike stand to take the wheels off.

If you only want to take one wheel off, you can do it with a floor jack.
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Jlnance
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

continental road attacks or pilot roads are good. They wont hold a corner as well as the corsas but for day to day use and street twisties they will treat you well.

I run Road Attacks on my Uly and they last well for me.

It is true that the Corsa will stick better leaned over, but whether that matters depends on how you ride. Given a first bike which made it 6k miles on the Corsas, I'm guessing it isn't being ridden anywhere near hard enough for the difference between the tires to come into play.
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Doerman
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you only want to take one wheel off, you can do it with a floor jack.

And some tiedowns
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Buellborn
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have thought about getting a motorcycle tire machine for doing it myself, who here does that and is it worth the cost?
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great idea. I did it a while ago. It is a great cost savings especially if you have friends that can share in the savings and initial cost.

that being said, I just made a discovery that an automotive tire machine can change our sportbike tires--so the changing equipment has been retired (one of my best friends owns a shop.) what a GODSEND!

Figure that you save about $80-$100 per tire when you figure on the cost of the rubber (internet purchase) and the installation cost. It makes running over a nail a much less painful experience, too.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS--DOn't believe the No-Mar demos, there is no way it is that easy. They have tires that are too big for the rims. I saw a dude dismounting tire using one finger. Pulease.
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Funktron
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes....I think the replacement cost from the dealership is a nightmare for the unaware customer / consumer.

The dealership quoted me $230 for the tire and an additional $135 to R&R just the rear tire.

I took it to a local shop where the guy did it right in front of me while I watched / asked questions / waited. Being that I'm new to messing with the bikes (used to tooling cars though), it was nice to have an experienced mechanic have the decency to show me exactly what he was doing and explaining it along the way so that I understood.

I went with a more road warrior tire and less of a track tire. If it works out...good....if I dont like it...I'll change it. I wanted the new Michelin dual compound but he didnt have one in stock...and I'm a bit impatient. So instead I got a Bridgestone Battlax. $130 for the tire. The cost of the mechanic lesson and R&R of the tire.....$35. I saved a hundred bucks on the labor alone and appreciated the lesson....so I bought the guy lunch.
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Redscuell
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funktron, which of the Battlax's did you choose (I see Bridgestone has several). I know the BT45 Battleax that I run (bias ply) on my Honda is barely adequate; perhaps the newer radials are more worthwhile. Cheers.
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Zkottke
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

7500 on my rear corsa III. Why "only" 6000?
With luck i'll hit 8000 before the weather
turns here in WI.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 03:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the Bt-016. They seem to turn in slower than the Corsa III, but are more stable mid-corner. Plus they seem to give smoother ride. my first impressions--I have no idea of the tread life.
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D_adams
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS--DOn't believe the No-Mar demos, there is no way it is that easy. They have tires that are too big for the rims. I saw a dude dismounting tire using one finger. Pulease.


Ummm, I live about 30 miles away from where they're built at, and yes, it really is that easy. I've seen a live demo, pulled a wheel off a bike and done it on the spot there and I had no difficulty changing the tire. They showed me how once, then let me do one of their tires followed by mine. If you've ever changed a tire on a coats 220, it's the same thing only easier. A side bonus was the teflon locks, they don't scratch rims at all .
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