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Misterrich
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just ordered one of these. Hope it helps. My Battery Light Is coming on all the time now. And starting is getting very weak. Ill update more info after it get it and its installed. Its small enough to keep under the windscrene.
http://www.batterystuff.com/solar-chargers/2.5Wfra me.html
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Dtx
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dude, you shouldn't have to do this. Something must be wrong. I have never had a battery problem on any of my Buells including the 1125R. I keep it on a battery tender whenever its in the garage.

There was one time I had a dead battery on my 12R. The stator and VR were bad.
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Buellborn
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should not have to put it on a tender either. Unless you let them set for months at a time.
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Zack3g
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine was hard to start one day, completely dead the next.
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Eweaver
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My battery light comes on a lot also. I ride it daily for at least an hour. I just picked it up from the dealer today. They said that everything checked out and was within spec. They are going to call Buell next week to try to get to the bottom of it. I wonder why they put an improved charging system on the 2009 models?
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Misterrich
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 03:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine gets ridden for an hour every day just going back and forth from work. And my days off it gets ridden for several hours.

I have a battery charger in my garage but i dont want to have to put it on every night. I've used it a couple times on a trickle charge when the battery light came on. Once the battery was completely dead.

With the solar charger on the inside of the windscrene it will make up for an inadaquite
charging system.
If there is an upgrade let me know ill gladly buy one. Untill then ill use solar.
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Kttemplar
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a problem with the battery before I got the first re-flash. I was scared to take it off the tender after that. I used a tender for a couple months after the re-flash and have not been using the tender for about a month now with good results.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have kept Loretta on a Tender Jr since Feb, but it was dead when I got home from Homecoming.
Just got a replacement transformer and it's "sorta" working again.Gonna look for a better match in a few days...

Who's the maker of the alternative?
I Won't buy another Deltran product - crappy customer service.

Bottom line, Loretta hasn't needed a charger, I went over 10k on Sunday, the last day of Homecoming.
I'm starting the 12.4k service, Loretta is half stripped...
No battery issues.

Z
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Dentguy
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who's the maker of the alternative?
I Won't buy another Deltran product - crappy customer service.


Yuasa. Not sure if it is any better.

(Message edited by dentguy on September 01, 2008)
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Misterrich
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the reflash done a while ago and maybe it didn't take if im still having battery problems.
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Jpfive
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Battery Tender Plus has given me very good service. I also own the Yuasa Smart Charger. This one has also given good service, but LT Snyder gave it a good slam in his review in Motorcycle Consumer News. Both units are more robust in their construction than the Jr is. They charge at a higher amperage, and have more cooling capacity.

Jack
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Steeleagle
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Somebody help me be more understanding: The (new or newer) battery dies a lot on a vehicle and the accepted solution is to put it on an auxiliary charger ALL THE TIME? If that was a car that wouldn't be tolerable and it shouldn't be here. There's obviously more drainage going on than charging, and I doubt that's the way BMC designed it. Either the bike's charging system is inept and needs attention, the battery is a dead soldier and needs to be replaced or there's an unauthorized load on the system when the key is off (or on or both) that kills the charge.

I sure would be finding out which one and fixing the real problem rather than simply eliminating symptoms by investing in an extra charger and having to plug it in every night. Maybe if it was an electric bike...

(Message edited by steeleagle on September 01, 2008)
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Jpfive
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everybody has their own opinion on this, I guess. I have kept tenders on my bikes for the last several years, and that includes my last Buell, a Kawasaki, two Hondas and an Aprilia. Others get by without them, but mine run better when the battery is topped off - especially the ones with EFI.

Consider for a moment that modern EFI systems are demanding in terms of voltage, as are the newer generation of cars, and this demand is being met by a 'miniature' electrical system - why not give yourself the extra break? And, there is more draw on modern bikes with the ignition off than there was just a few short years ago.

This is not a problem that is limited to bikes. I am a partner in an automobile dealership. Keeping the charge up on our new vehicles in stock is a never ending battle, as are dead battery complaints within the first week of delivery. Why? Because it is impractical to bring each and every battery to a full, initialized charge, and keep them there while they are on the lot. This is not done at the factory, either.

Proper 'initializing' of a battery is not done with a 'charger', but with a 'tender'. Charging current should not exceed 1/10th of the amp/hr rating for this purpose, and this takes a while on a new battery. I know the manual for our bikes does not require that, but.... The Yuasa site has some very good articles on this subject, which I recommend.

Not trying to argue with you, as your position is perfectly reasonable. But, tenders work well in our imperfect world of motorcycling - and will save you some grief.

Jack
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Buellborn
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any new motorcycle or car should not require life support to survive.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I picked mine up last monday, the battery was dead. Luckily they had a new one on the shelf in parts so they didn't have to go from bike to bike looking for the strongest one. While I waited the service manager came out yelling at the sales manager about not pluging the bikes in. See, at BikeTown HD/Buell, they install the pig tail for a battery tender during dealer set up. I plug Blackie Onassis in after every ride now. Takes two seconds for lots of piece of mind.
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Krassh
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Before the reflash my bike was dead after sitting for about 5-6 days. Since then and since the reflash I had kept mine plugged in religiously. At least until I had to charge my RV batteries. So I have not had my 1125R on the charger for at least a month and half now.
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Husky
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you can't locate a Yusa, you might try Optimate, works for me!

Husky
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Kttemplar
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Misterrich,

Along with the re-flash, part of the maintenance was to check/retorque the bolts on the starter solenoid. You may want to see if the dealer did that or do it yourself. The instructions are in the Buell Service bulleting.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/B071.pdf

Mike
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Chevycummins
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Misterrich, That solar panel is only .123A, it would take a long time to actually charge the battery in direct sunlight. It would help keep the battery up once the battery is fully charged though.

I had dead battery problems a while ago and found a draw in the instrument cluster. Sometimes it would kill my battery overnight and other times it would be ok for a week or more. I never had the battery light come on while riding, sounds like a charging problem to me. Get it checked out before you get stranded.
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Misterrich
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bike is parked out in the sun for 13 hours a day. i picked this charger because of its low amps. Dont want to blow my battery up
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Chevycummins
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

High amps are just as bad as high voltage. That solar panel can produce 17 volts. It looks like there is no charge controller on it and I think if I were you I would get a solar panel charge controller for it. Most AGM batteries will be damaged by that high of voltage.

I've got a 45W solar charger with a charge controller. It charges at about 2.5A in direct sunlight and shuts off at 14.5V. I use it just for larger batteries.
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