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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, I did the 620 miles service to my bike and reset the Service counter for the next time. My theft system worked fine in ask the first time I turned the bike off, but now the ask screen comes on for half a second and then turns off. I've tried the other 2 modes and both work fine, but ask still does the same thing. The battery is at 12.7 so that shouldn't be a problem. This only happened after I reset the service screen. Wondering if maybe that has something to do with it. Bug maybe?
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Spectrum
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did my 6200 mile service this weekend and reset the service counter. Next day I had a low battery. First time in months.

I say this is definitely raises the question of a possible IC related bug.

Questions though, not answers!
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Slypiranna
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and to think I almost mashed these buttons on a perfect, electrically related, 1125R, since new in Jan 07...

Any insight out there to offset this wonder?
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Rick914
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only time my battery went dead was 2 days after my 620...I let it sit in the garage. Never done it since. Never had a problem with the security system though.
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Donutclub
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had my battery run down 2 days after I reset my service counter as well. I can't remember if I actually toggled to the exit menu after resetting the counter. I may have just turned the key off after I reset the counter. I suspect that this caused the drain, but I figure I won't know until I reset the counter at 6200 miles......which will be along time away for me.

I haven't had any issues with the battery being low since.
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Um, how did this become a battery discussion? This was on the theft system. My battery is showing 12.7 and this is happening. Full charge.
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Rick914
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lol...sorry for pirating you post man
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Cataract2
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not a problem, I just wanted to get back on topic. So, has anyone found a fix for this yet?
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ryan, I've reset my service counter twice now with no adverse effects.
I had a dead battery the day after my first reflash, that was the only occurrence for me.
When I took it in for testing at BMC's request a week later, they flashed it again with no problems afterward.

Loretta passed 8500 miles yesterday.

I don't use the security feature at all.

Z
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Buellgator
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I was having the same problems as Ryan, replaced the battery last night, and it cleared the problems up.

Ryan just rolled through here on his way back to Colorado, we replaced the battery and it appears to have cleared up his concerns as well.
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Doerman
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Buell version of Ctrl/Alt/Del is disconnect/reconnect battery cable.
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Doerman said...... Reboot it.
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Steeleagle
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just had the exact same issue with my first service reset. My Theft Setting is no longer an option and flashes on/off to me the same as Ryan's did on key-off. 620 miles service. Are we saying I can just brown-out the computer (disconnect the battery) or that my battery is the culprit and needs to be replaced?
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Steeleagle
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never mind. Got anxious and curious and pulled the negative terminal for a few seconds. Reconnected it and I'm back in business. It doesn't appear to be a battery issue, just a confused computer.
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Buellgator
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now I'm wondering if I just disconnected power for a second, if that would have cleared it up?
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Steeleagle
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My battery is still lighting things off just fine. I hesitate to imply that good batteries have been replaced, since it obviously IS possible that they were bad, but my bike is back to normal with the same battery.

I deal with control panels with "intelligent" microprocessors in them, and when things don't go like they should, you follow all the instructions and they STILL don't work, I've found that briefly depriving the little beggars of food with a brownout sometimes makes them come around to my way of thinking again! Like Doerman said:

"The Buell version of Ctrl/Alt/Del is disconnect/reconnect battery cable."

I'm a believer...and it ain't just Buell!
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Twp1125r
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well i had the same problem with the theft mode in ask after the 620 check up but after two days of sitting it wouldn't turn on at all any ideas?
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Steeleagle
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you try a simple disconnect of the negative terminal on the battery? I just disconnected the terminal, counted to 5, reconnected, and I was back in business with my Theft settings.

Mine was in "Ask" mode prior to the service reset as well, and after the service reset the theft setting never "asked", but at key-off "Enter PIN" and timer flashed on the display and immediately blinked off. I tried going into the setup mode to just reset it and restore the setting, but it had no impact. So I tried the battery disconnect after the futile efforts of logic, and it's "normal" again.
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