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Dre99gsx
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2nd time already. Downshifting from 2nd to 1st (stopping for a light), as soon as I push in the clutch, not even bliping the throttle, engine dies on me. Real dangerous, but wondered if anyone had this happen? 380miles on the bike, 37degF out there. Fully warmed, was in a 20 minute ride home.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine has had some hiccups, especially at first.
Nothing major, no problems in motion.
When I went out yesterday, I started with 360 miles and parked her with 500 showing.
It was a flawless trip with a very smooth running mill.
Ambient was mid 30s and she was a lot smoother after lightening the suspension per BMC chart in owner's manual.
Keep at it and stay attentive, mine's been getting smoother each outing.

Snowed today, my first "White Christmas", no riding tomorrow.
I've lived in Colorado for 20 years and this is the first time I've seen measurable snow on Christmas.

Z
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Donutclub
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, I had mine stop on me after riding on the freeway and stopping at a traffic light. It only happened once, but it if happens again, it's going back to the dealer to be checked out. My bike had about 100 miles on it when it happened and the temperatures were hovering around 36-37 degreesF.
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Darkice19
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine does the same thing if the rpms drop too low while slowing down. It doesn't coast along like my xb9 did. Its only done it a couple times but i just give it a tiny bit of gas and its fine. If the problem persists after the full break in ill take it in and have it looked at.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 03:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Real dangerous"

Real over-dramatic.
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Donutclub
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's pretty disturbing to have the bike come to an abrupt stop while attempting to make a left turn (with approaching traffic). I'd consider this pretty dangerous, especially with the crazy cagers that are driving around.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any anomalous behavior while in motion is potentially dangerous.
Remember, you're riding a brand new machine; in more ways than one.
Those of us "up North" are riding outside BMCs recommended temperature range of 65-95F and things work differently than in a warmer clime.
The Helicon has a LOT LESS low end torque than the Lump, keep the "R"s up when pulling out.

Like I said above, Stay Attentive.
Be ready for anything, you ride a sportbike...

Z
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Diablo1
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those of us "up North" are riding outside BMCs recommended temperature range of 65-95F and things work differently than in a warmer clime.

Surely, you're kidding about the temperature range. It's got a thermostatically controlled water cooling system.}
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you read the Owner's Manual, the "normal" OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE range is 65-95F.

Not talking about the engine temp.

RTFP

Z
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Mainstreamer
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YES, Very Dangerous..... when you're unable to take avoidance action, get out of traffic, or loose control when turning and drop the bike.

I'm sure you understand that Blake, don't you? Me thinks perhaps you're being a little over sensitive here. Recalls have have resulted for things like this.... unexpected or sudden lose of power.
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Molly_hatchet
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

me...id be a little pissed if my brand new bike died...and i would think it would be a potentialy dangerous situation considering it is a motorcycle and staying alive while riding is hard enough...im perplexed that someone would think it overdramatic to have a problem with that.
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Mainstreamer
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps a single thread only for 1125r owners experiencing 'special situations' is in order here. This would provide the factory folks a focal point on these issues until the appropriate support systems are in place.

What say you anony?
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Downshifting from 2nd to 1st (stopping for a light), as soon as I push in the clutch, not even bliping the throttle, engine dies on me. Real dangerous..."

It's absolutely an issue for sure. One that needs resolved if it re-occurs. My point was that having an engine die as you are coasting to a stop with the clutch disengaged is not "real dangerous." How do you "push in the clutch" anyway?
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Diablo1
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you read the Owner's Manual, the "normal" OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE range is 65-95F.

Not talking about the engine temp.

RTFP

Z


So does Buell tell you not to ride the bike when the temperature outside is less than 65F? Do they tell you it will stall or blow up? I've been around motorcycles for 40 years, and this is the first time anyone has suggested there's a problem when it's less than 65F outside. If Buell really printed that in their manual.....they're out of their f..ing minds.}
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Donutclub
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The reference to the 65-95°F temperature range is found under the suspension settings. The book mentions that the suspension setting may have to be changed when outside of this range.

The bike can be ridden well outside of this range. In fact, there is an oil viscosity table that identifies 10W40 as the recommended oil for below 40°F.

I'm guessing (hoping) that the stalling condition is due to a weak battery. I haven't had any issues since I installed my battery tender.
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Dre99gsx
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know?... give a guy some slack here. I race cars and have a habit of "pushing" the clutch. I'm sorry I upset the english writing police.

Having an engine die as I coast to a light is a dangerous affair to me. Why? Because at that light, it was red turning green. I lost power and was in the middle of making a left turn. I started to lean but lost power. Not safe at all when you have traffic coming at you.

Also, I was the one who complained of a dead battery after a 2nd ride. After fully charing at night and driving 2 hours (to and from work), it has since held its charge for up to a week w/o a tender. That seems to be ok for now.

(Message edited by dre99gsx on December 26, 2007)
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Dre99gsx
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And I agree. The 1125r should have a separate section on problems/issues, among other things.
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Wahoo
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine shut off a couple of times in the first 150 miles, has not happened since.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about we collect some data on this, and have owners use the ODIS to check their voltage levels? Might help the factory track whether there's a problem or not.

Right hand on key, in off position. Left hand, hold down both Toggle and Mode buttons together and turn the key on. Presto - diagnostic mode. IIRC (don't have a bike here in front of me) use the toggle button to change screens thru the live data. Fourth or fifth is battery V if I recall.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Real dangerous"

Real over-dramatic.

Happened to me years ago with my S3 as I was riding it home for the first time. As I was crossing a triple wide railroad track I cracked the throttle it back fired and died.
A train was coming and the safety bars were coming down as I pushed it off the tracks. The service tech had cracked the "bread box" and left an air line off during set up.
Yes it can be dangerous.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One thing I've noticed about the bikes is that you have to get the rev's up before taking off in first. It is very easy to stall the bike if you are not familiar with it. With the XB models you can basically take off by just letting the clutch out and no gas if you wanted to. Other than that the two 1125's I have ridden have been really smooth all around.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The other factor on "take-off" is the difference between cable and hydraulic clutches. I've found the 1125 to be much more forgiving, but I still stall V-Rods from the first standstill just because of the different clutch feel.
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Xbolt12
Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 03:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Ducati does the same on occasion when it's cold out. It will die coming up to a stop with the clutch in usually after riding it hard. I just learned to thumb the starter button and go-which isn't a bad idea to learn anyway in case you ever stall the bike pulling away from a stop.
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