| Author |
Message |
    
Whitj
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 05:25 pm: | 
|
Let be be Anonymous for a minute & Answer that for you Trojan...
Ok, back to whitj.
Hope that helped Trojan.  |
Rocketsprink
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 05:57 pm: |
|
It was discussed and left at that. Don't know if that means production bikes will have it or not. Asked a friend of mine that is a Buell engineer about the spools this past weekend.
That's the answer I got. Beautiful bike none the less! |
Blake
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 07:19 pm: |
|
Why is it that Anonymous is choosing not to answer this quite relevant question?
What question? |
Teddagreek
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 07:27 pm: |
|
Take a look at the swingarm from this angle and you'll see why there will be problems using a standard 'cup' type stand. It will just slip on the smooth and sharply angled swingarm.
anyone? Hello? |
Mikef5000
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 07:57 pm: |
|
quote:I was also assuming that no answer yet meant they were looking into it.
They know the thread is here. There's no time limit. Lets give them the time they want, and hopefully they'll come back with the answer we want! |
Court
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 08:14 pm: |
|
Frankly, I know at least one anonymous who is on his first vacation is something like a couple years and if so much as picks up a computer he'll be suffering from "spool face" syndrome.
This, folks, has been an incredibly busy last couple months at Buell, an intense last couple weeks, pulling off Homecoming and the dealer meeting within the same window, while the plane was waiting to leave for Laguna Seca. In addition, the 1125R have about 8 busy weeks left.
Patience.
Or . . . and I can't ignore this option . . . it's simply that Henrik has been demanding spools for so long that they're torturing him . . . the Buell folks are not above torture! This bike gets' spools . . . . I OWN the Great Dane!
 |
Pushrodpete
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 10:44 pm: |
|
Maybe they're deciding whether to make the threaded boss SAE or metric...
(runs for cover...) |
Gregtonn
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 01:29 am: |
|
Some owners will have neither the ability or the facilities to do this themselves.
True.
Others will be justifiably reluctant to start driling holes in their brand new bike.
No drilling of holes in the bike was suggested. That was the point of the post.
G. |
Smoke
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 06:42 am: |
|
i'm thinking about drilling holes in the swingarm for spools but don't have the stress analysis for the swingarm to place them in a low stress area.
tim |
Trojan
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 08:38 am: |
|
i'm thinking about drilling holes in the swingarm for spools but don't have the stress analysis for the swingarm to place them in a low stress area.
This is what we did with our XB12X based racer last year, and it worked really well. Take a look at the inside of the swingarm and just coose a place that doesn't have a strengthening rib running across it and is the same on both sides. I used a set of bobbins 8mm mounting bolts with a large washer on the inside to spread the load. Thiese worked extremely well all year with no signs of stress on the swingarm.
Unfortunately the 1125R looks to be more difficult because the swingarm sides aren't parrallel or perpendicuar, so the bobbins would end up at some strange angles if bolted directly to the swingarm. I think a seperate block such as suggested earlier by Greg would be a great idea, and something I will investigate further if the factory don't fit them as standard. |
Court
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 08:51 am: |
|
Just for the record:
DO NOT DRILL HOLES IN YOUR SWINGARM.
It'd be cool to see something done on this, if only to lend support to the "we listen" concept, but I'd had to see some Buell owner who wasn't as lucky as Matt take a tumble and have to explain to his insurance company that he drilled a hole in a stressed member.
PERSONAL OPINION |
Trojan
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 10:00 am: |
|
If done properly there should be no weakening of the original casting. Ours was inspected regularly and was fine, but obvioulsy anything like this is at the owners own risk.
We were racing and needed spools for quick wheel changes. This was the best way to do it on the 2006 swingarm. |
Court
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 10:07 am: |
|
Matt:
No disagreement from my end. You are a professional racer, well aware of the risks.
My fear was some fella taking a 3/8" drill to his swingarm.
Court |
Mikej
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 10:09 am: |
|
How about some fella taking a welder to one????? |
Henrik
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 11:59 am: |
|
Spools ... 
Glad to see I'm not alone in wanting spools. Been asking for those for years:
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=32777&post=136576#POST136576
and again ...
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=17&post=768080#POST768080
Henrik |
Skully
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 06:12 pm: |
|
How about some fella taking a welder to one?????
Welding aluminum without subsequent heat treating substantially lowers the mechanical properties. |
Garrett2
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 07:52 pm: |
|
BUELL PLEASE BE LISTENING/WATCHING THIS THREAD
i agree, spoils would be great, ive never used them but I know it sucks trying to get a rear wheel off without being on a bike lift with front wheel clamp, so it'd be great to have a securea and easy way of doing it |
Smoke
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 09:58 pm: |
|
spot face the spool mount area to prevent strange spool angles. hopefully the bike will come with provisions for spools.
tim |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:38 am: |
|
I just had an idea. Skully, you have email. |
Neb25
| | Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 09:47 am: |
|
Bump |
Gregtonn
| | Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 01:16 am: |
|
Slightly of topic but related. Where are the "official" jack points?
Maybe the "annies" are too busy over at the lap time thread to answer that one as well.
By the way, at the risk of being politically incorrect, where I come from what the little yellow guy is doing is called the "Polish salute".
G. |
Gregtonn
| | Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 03:40 am: |
|
?? |
Trojan
| | Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 04:33 am: |
|
 |
Gregtonn
| | Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 04:54 am: |
|
Trojan,
Me too.
I have two brothers who will be at at Sturgis. They should be able to get some measurements. I expect these measurements will be some what rudimentary. I can share them with you if you would like.
Greg |
Trojan
| | Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 06:45 am: |
|
I can share them with you if you would like.
Yes please |
Ceejay
| | Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 01:24 am: |
|
Both my XB swingarms have small holes in the bottom of each arm, why wouldn't they carry this over to the new swingarm? A specific stand will still have to be made as the swingarm isn't symmetrical. But it would be pretty easy to either thread the holes or use a threaded insert and install a 90 degree arm holding a spool(I imagine spools are much easier in racing situations than trying to fit a stand with a pin into a hole) |
Trojan
| | Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 05:25 am: |
|
Fitting mounting points for spools would be so much easier at the manufacturing stage before the swingarm is painted/coated, and would cost very little for the factory to do.
Even the most basic Kawasaki/Suzuki budget bikes have spool attachments included so it isn't a big ask is it?
If Buell want to save money then get rid of the lap timer and fit the spools instead. |
Gregtonn
| | Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:18 pm: |
|
Trojan,
I agree.
I am even more concerned that there are no specified customer approved jack points for the stock bike.
WTH?
Greg |
Smoke
| | Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 06:10 am: |
|
i sure would like to see spool mounts as part of the production line items. i will have to go back and check the owner downloads for views of race stands on the bike.
tim |
Trojan
| | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 12:40 pm: |
|
Is there anybody out there?
|
Gregtonn
| | Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 01:02 pm: |
|
Trojan,
re; Crude swing arm measurements. The "lip" at the bottom of the swing arm is .195" to .200" thick. (I varies in thickness along the length of the swingarm).
The width of the lip is approximately .75" on the inside surface.
If you have looked at the photo of the swingarm on the Buell.com site, you know it has an angled gusset inside the swingarm just forward of the axle.
It's not much, but it's more than I knew last week.
Greg |
