| Author | Message | ||
     Trojan |
I would like to see the facility for mounting paddock stand spools on the swingarm. if Buell can incorporate a 8mm or 10mm threaded boss on the swingarm in the same way that Kawasaki and other manufacturers already do, it would make maintenance a lot easier for owners. If you look at the shape of the swingarm I think it will be very difficult to use a standard universal 'cup' type stand, and using swingarm sliders such as Dark Horse Moto, R&G etc is great until you need to remove the wheel.  This may add pennies to the cost of the bike but would vastly increase practicality and ease of maintenace, and for those going racing it would be a real boon!  | ||
| Neb25 |
Very good point Matt. | ||
| M1combat |
Very much agreed. | ||
| Diablobrian |
It would be very easy for them to look at what Hal's does on their chain conversions. Those work brilliantly. | ||
| Skully |
Until they do, we recommend the Pit Bull SS Stand. It has both the swing arm pads (for use when removing the wheel) and the forks for using our spool type sliders.  There are many other fine wheel stands on the market but we know that this one works quite well and is available from some of our BadWeB sponsors. Keith DarkHorseMoto | ||
| Kuuud |
My standard Pit Bull stands work great and I have no interest in seeing spools clutter up the swing arms. | ||
| Trojan |
My standard Pit Bull stands work great and I have no interest in seeing spools clutter up the swing arms. If you look closely you'll see that the shape of the new 1125 swingarm is very different to the current one, and does not look as if it will lend itself particularly well to the 'universal' cup type stand. If you have never used a bike with spools fitted you really won't know just how much better they are. The bike is MUCH more securely held on the stand and much less likely to slip or rock. Having had an XB fall on me from just this experience I am a firm believer in spools and fitted them to our XB racer (by drilling the swingarm) as soon as we got it. It would however be much easier for the factory to give us the facility of fitting aftermarket spools simply by uncorporating a 10mm threaded boss on the swingarm. If you don't want to 'clutter' your swingarm then don't fit the spools. The threaded bosses would not detract from the look.  | ||
| Ratbuell |
How about just finding a way to cast a spool into the rear of the swingarm? | ||
| Diablobrian |
"How about just finding a way to cast a spool into the rear of the swingarm?" they need to be replaceable so that they can be quickly replaced after crash damage. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Perhaps I was unclear...looking at the rear shot of the bike above, I was thinking of casting the taper into the center (l/r center) of each side of the swingarm. Not building out, but carving in. Instead of having a blunt swingarm end, it would have the spool-shaped (inverted cones) swingarm end on each side. Make the inversion go a little deeper in front to make the "notch" for the paddock stand hook, and voila! An internal spool. If you have to replace *that* after a crash, you have bigger issues and probably won't be racing any more that day anyway... | ||
| Trojan |
Any comments from Anonymous on this subject please? Take a look at the swingarm from this angle and you'll see why there will be problems using a standard 'cup' type stand. It will just slip on the smooth and sharply angled swingarm.  | ||
| Blake |
Looks like it will be pretty easy to drill a hole in each side of the swingarm and fit threaded backing blocks that match the inside surfaces of the swingarm and into which one may thread a set of spools. It might be prudent to consider the spools for stand duty only, not crash protection. There may be too much risk for damaging the swingarm if you ask that cast aluminum alloy open section swingarm to withstand impact forces involved in crashing onto a slider. For crash protection keep the protective slider on the big sturdy axle where upon impact the forces are shared by both sides of the swingarm and much resisted by the beefy, well-secured axle. It might be possible to use the universal typy of swingarm stand if one can devise a way of securing a temporary stop to prevent it from sliding upwards/forwards. Maybe a small bolt afixed to a hole in the bottom flange of the swingarm? Or heck why not just some little removable clamp device afixed to the bottom flange of the swingarm? | ||
| Diablobrian |
how about either a pin on the bottom of the swingarm that will mate to a hole in the stand's pad or a pin on the stand that would mate to a hole in the swingarm? Either one should be pretty easy to manage and should be (assuming a positive engagement) very stable. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
I do not know if the new 1125R will have a hollow rear axle like my current M2 but I have a stand that I use under a smooth 3/8 inch shaft through the axle. Works great except to pull the wheel. When I need to pull the wheel I suspend the bike temporarily from a rafter. Front can be done with the rear stand and a small jack under the engine to lift the front slightly. Is the new 1125R axle indeed hollow? | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
yes it is | ||
| Diablobrian |
unfortunately on track days there are no rafters available, the same for many people's garages and even more so for those not fortunate enough to have a garage. Ideally spools should be functional under all circumstances. Since the bikes are still in pre-production they have an opportunity to make a change to the design that would benefit a lot of owners down the line. Spools or at least bungs for them are as standard as fairings on modern sport bikes. | ||
| Josh_cox |
Spool boss here please! It gives Buell the chance to sell more product as well. Make it something other than the standard size and thread pitch and sell their own spool also. Josh | ||
| Spatten1 |
Spool boss here please! It gives Buell the chance to sell more product as well. Yes, make it as convenient as other sportbikes for common uses, like track days. Make it something other than the standard size and thread pitch and sell their own spool also. No, don't make it a pain in the ass for new Buell owners that are accustomed to standardization and will gain no benefit from this variation from industry standard. | ||
| Rd3501 |
I have been asking for this since 2003 and some other things...Yes spool boss would be nice or even a real bike lift from Buell that goes under the muffler would be nice. Still cant see why Buell hasnt caught on that not all people take their bikes to the dealers to have them serviced. Buell bike stand or spool bosses...you choose...we will buy... | ||
| Lake_bueller |
Yep...spool bosses please!!! I always feel more comfortable having my GSXR on a rear stand because it has the spools. My Buells tend to slide on the stands from time to time. | ||
| Blake |
A Buell bike lift or even stand probably exposes Buell to way too much liability in the disgustingly litigious age in which we live. | ||
| Gregtonn |
Doesn't the bottom of the swing arm have a lip on the inside? If it does: 1. Take a block of 6061 T6 and cut a slot in it to fit the lip. 2. Drill and tap a couple of holes through to the slot. 3. Use a couple of set screws to clamp it to the inside swing arm. 4. Drill and tap it for your spool. This is a very crude description. Extra points will be given for aesthetics and creativity. G.  | ||
| Teddagreek |
I remember a post some one welded some on... Maybe when they finish the Race Bike we will be able to buy parts like some have from the XBRR | ||
| Trojan |
Doesn't the bottom of the swing arm have a lip on the inside? If it does: 1. Take a block of 6061 T6 and cut a slot in it to fit the lip. 2. Drill and tap a couple of holes through to the slot. 3. Use a couple of set screws to clamp it to the inside swing arm. 4. Drill and tap it for your spool. This is a very crude description. Extra points will be given for aesthetics and creativity Some owners will have neither the ability or the facilities to do this themselves. Others will be justifiably reluctant to start driling holes in their brand new bike. This is a simple matter for the factory to include during manufacturer that would make maintenance easier for everyone. Buell state ease of maintenance as one of their core principles with this bike, so it should be a complete no brainer for the factory to include these as standard. I for one would rather see these included than heated grips, as it is something I would use every day rather than just in winter/cold weather when I don't tend to ride anyway. If Kawasaki/Suzuki etc can include paddock stand spools on even their budget bikes costing less than half the price of the 1125R then there is absolutely no reason why Buell cannot do the same. I find it a little frustrating that of all the threads on this 'questions' board this one has not been addressed or answered by an Anonymous. | ||
| Trojan |
bump | ||
| Beastie |
I'm sure that many of us are watching this, but just not posting. I agree many of us would prefer these over heated grips. Buell state ease of maintenance as one of their core principles with this bike, so it should be a complete no brainer for the factory to include these as standard. | ||
| Trojan |
Why is it that Anonymous is choosing not to answer this quite relevant question? A simple yes or no would be better than ignoring it. | ||
| Spiderman |
A Buell bike lift or even stand probably exposes Buell to way too much liability in the disgustingly litigious age in which we live. Then why do companies like Lockhart Phillips and Pit Bull make stands then? I believe Duc makes some rear stands for there bikes. Or are you taking about a Bike lift that would lift by the muffler. I know at one point (tuber days)you could buy a Lockhart type stnd thru Buell/HD as one of the "Factory tools" | ||
| M1combat |
Don't get your panties in a bunch yet Matt . Maybe they're looking into it? Anyway... Bump again . | ||
| Mikef5000 |
I am one of many watching this thread hoping to see an Anony response. I was also assuming that no answer yet meant they were looking into it. |
