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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes check the wheel bearing, if you ever take the rear wheel off to change the tire make sure the bearing spins easily by placing your finger in the hole and turning it, it should not catch or crunch or bump.

About the girlfriend thing, I did not mean the comment Hi Girlfriend to you, it was a general Hi Girlfriend, to all Blastards in general as the wife is a suspicious little thing looking for any reason to murder me with one of my own firearms that I so stupidly taught her to use. I did not even realize you were female
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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The squeeking is pretty normal, my Sportster does it also.

You say you took your wheels off yourself. Did you retorque your axle nuts to the proper torque? Over torquing them will destroy the wheel bearings.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Swampy, sounds like a lot of backpedaling to me. No, I'm not female, but I thought we were playing 'lets pretend'!(I knew what you meant-I get the same from my wife).LOL!

Robi: Relax. I know what binding sounds like and that isnt it. I also know from experience that you have to "drop" a Blast really hard to bend major critical parts. Tight "8"s are what you'll practice in the MSF course. Practice makes perfect, I guess you're not there yet! But practice is very good.

FWIW: A Blast wheel that has sat can have bearings very hard to turn ('seized' even). They can also seem to bind. Run them and they'll be fine and seem normal if you take the wheel off. This is not to say all seized or binding bearings are okay, just not to jump to conclusions hastily.
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Reuel
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just grab the damn wheel and see if I can get it to move in any direction besides rotational.

That's the best description I've heard. Sounds like someone' putting a lot of stress on a nylon line.

I changed my front isolator, and now I get a strange noise from my belt. It sounds like there's one little spot that's hitting something. I'll have to put it in the air again and give it a spin.
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Robi
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FYI:

It seems the new bearings and JB Weld brought the belt closer to center on the rear sprocket. Before it was rubbing against the outside plastic guard.
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Reuel
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It seems the sounds my belt make change every time I get a new tire. Maybe I'll pull the tire off and just pretend I changed it, and see if the belt makes a different noise. It's making a scrunchy clicky noise now.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Moving it in a 1/4" in I can see. More than that, I'm suspicious.
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Robi
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, not much at all. Just off the plastic guard. Haven't measured it, but I'd definitely say less than 1/4 of an inch. Before it seems like it was actively going toward the guard and the only thing stopping it was the guard.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Easy to see the difference! Recalled pulley on the left. 'Good' pulley on the right.

Recalled 73 tooth left-80 tooth current sprocket right
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Robi
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. And now that I see it with my own eyes, I am a believer, the belt does ride the side.
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Evilbetty
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's kind of scary isn't' it : )

My 2000 recall pulley rode in the middle, the new pulley rides against the cover like above.
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Reuel
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a statistical question for all those who have NOT replaced their rear sprockets when they replaced their belts: How many miles do you have, and has anybody actually seen evidence of rear pulley breakdown, such as cracks, on the bigger pulleys?
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Blastofrage
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so is someone having problems with a squeeking in the rear wheel sounds like belt is rubbing the plastic cover my belt rides a good 1/4in off of sprocket i have tried to adjust the motor with the adjustment bar at the front of motor im wondering if anyone has or is having this problem and what can or should be done thinking about offsetting the sproket to pull belt off plastic cover if anyone has pics of a stock setup to post please do maybe some things got mixed up when i pulled wheels to mount new tires i dont think so but possible

(Message edited by blastofrage on May 22, 2009)
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Reuel
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The belt normally rides on the outer edge of the pulley. I've had that noise off and on for years. I just replaced my wheel and pulley, and now the noise is gone. Maybe replacing the pulley is a good idea when replacing the belt after all. On the other hand, it's just one of those noises you can probably ignore. Disclaimer: I do not necessarily know what I am talking about when it comes to ignoring noises.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Concur (mostly)!
Adjusting the tiebar wont do any good. The swingarm is in a fixed position with the engine and there is no way to adjust it. Moving the engine, moves the swingarm with it. Its unlikely that you got things mixed up either.
Also, every tiebar I've seen is the exact same length, so you need to put yours back to where you started. While if things get twisted the adjustment may come in handy, but unless your really good at measuring, you'll never know the difference.

You could space the wheel over too, if you want. May only take a washer or two or you might have to shave down a spacer on one side and shim up the other side.
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Blastofrage
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok but if you move the motor and front pulley the belt should move over too. the bike is an 02,i guess i could replace the pulley and belt,it just kinda worries me cause the belt ride off he pulley about a 1/4 inch never had any real problems but that noise
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lets see if i can explain...
The Blast is divided into 2 parts. The front half which consists of the frame and front forks. The rear half which consists of the engine and swingarm. The two are joined by rubber engine mounts.
The swingarm is attached to the engine and pivots on the engine case (and not the frame). So, it doesnt matter what you do to the engine, turn it upside down, the swingarm and rear wheel will alway be in the same relation to the engine. All the tie bars will do is change the relation of the frame to the engine and wont change the relation of the engine to the wheel or pulleys.

You could space the rear pulley out with some washers or space the rear wheel over with some washers. Yours is not an uncommon situation and may change with a different wheel or pulley (as stated by Reuel), but thats a lot of money to spend to try and fix what may not be a problem (and may not change anything). The theory is that if parts are not in alignment then something is worn or bent.

While on the subject of the belt...if you raise up the rear suspension you run the risk of running the belt too loose as there isnt any adjustment. If it still rides in the original belt travel locations (and is just high when sitting) you may be okay. You do run the risk of the belt coming loose though if you hit some good bumps. A direct crossover shock (as far as I know) hasnt been found, yet, but a few can be made to work. Its easiest to shim up the spring (adding preload) or better to buy an aftermarket shock purpose built for the Blast.
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