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Poppa
Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi all, I don't mean to be rude but,I have a problem and will introduce myself more later. My son got a 2000 Blast and he's dying to ride it (so am I). It sat and was dumped awhile back. Here's where we are-
Changed gas,premium.
Cleaned carb-more on this later.
Changed das boot.
New plug-gapped.040
Cleaned carb(again) changed to .045 jet ,has 165 for the other one.
Found mixture screw this time,set to 2-2 1/2 turns out.
Changed the ?pick up coil?? (for timing).
I'm lost,idles ok but as soon as you touch the throttle she wants to die no nothing.
If I hold the slide up and twist the throttle it seems to work.Still,it spits some dropplets out the carb.
New plug is sooty black.It's a HD plug.
I have set the float but am not sure on this,kind of a screwy way to set it.
Could it need a diaphram? I don't know what else to try. ANY suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. Thank you....
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New plug sooty - is it getting spark? Is plug wire good? Does the ignition light stay on when running? If yes to booth then I would suspect either the enrichner or slide - use the diagnostics in the manual.
EZ
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Poppa
Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Plan on getting manual tomorrow.What do you mean by ignition light?

(Message edited by poppa on July 10, 2011)
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hit my profile, go to my bike's website, then go to my bikes group, join and then hit the files section - for educational purposes.

Take a jewelers screwdriver, pop off the ignition cover, turn bike over, if ignition light flashes, then it is delivering the signal for spark.
EZ
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Poppa
Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Changed plug,could rev it a couple times then,same thing ,only harder to get it to idle now.Coil?
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can you put it under load and ride it?
EZ
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Poppa
Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never got a leg over it
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the ignition light flashing?
EZ
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Poppa
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes it is. I'm wondering if it's running way to rich.We started it it ran,reved up a couple times then the same thing. I shut off the gas and tried to start it a few times and when it started to empty the bowl ran ok and reved up as the fuel got eaten up??????
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try unhooking the carb electrics - I bet its the en-richner drowning you out - these bikes sit unused so long -
EZ
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Poppa
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Which one is that? Can I disconnect the plug for both components,one is white and I think the other is black.
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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

welcome Poppa!

Did you remove the diaphragm cover?
It almost sounds like you pinched it, as when you hold the slide up it will rev and if it was pinched it would not lift up. If you have never removed the diaphragm cover before and replaced it you will see it takes a bit of finaggling to get the cover on and the diaphragm lip in the groove all the way around.
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Poppa
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YES i did. It seemed to fit right back in.
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unhook both see what happens.
EZ
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Poppa
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2011 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

fOUND NEW PROBLEM,RELATED. The spark is all over the plug,on the sides ,trying to go towards the top,NOT in the gap. Tried three different plugs,2 HD and a NGK. Same thing. When I first started it it reved up ,now hard to start and runs like crap (obviously). Just bad plugs or something else????
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2011 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are saying the spark is going UP the insulator?

Is your spark plug gap too large?

The plug body is grounded while you are cranking it correct?

If the above is correct, you have a bad plug, the resistance for the spark to jump the gap is more than running up the side of the electrode.
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Poppa
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will go buy a couple more today. Three bad plugs in a row,that's my luck lately.
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2011 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get a new wire as well - lol
EZ
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Poppa
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New plug looks like it's ok. Still,only idle with tps/enricher plugged in. Nothing with them unplugged. No rev'ing unless I just pick up the slide/needle. Ready to shoot it.....
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is cable on?
EZ
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Poppa
Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what cable?
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check your throttle cable path.
EZ
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Poppa
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cables work fine
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well that slide is not working for a reason. Make sure nothing is blocking the vacuum inlet hole on the intake side. Make sure vacuum line is pluged, boot on correctly, spray a little starting fluid around the manifold to engine connection, and listen for an rpm change, also check for an exhaust leak. You could be missing a carb part as well.
EZ
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Poppa
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slide goes up and down(like it's bouncing) by itself,when I raise it manually the carb seems to work,somewhat,like it is suppose to. If we don't get it this weekend,I will probably take it in. It does us no good just sitting there,I think we are on the right track but,I have too many projects going at one time.Time to go work on the beast.
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Poppa
Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yippy Skippy,it'a alive. Told the boy to get a manual right away. Looking at the diagram,whoever worked on this carb before,didn't remember where the needle jet was suppose to go. They had it in the same "tube" as the slowjet,just sitting on the bottom. Didn't think it looked right but,never worked on one of these carbs before.
New problem,she seemed to idle REALLY high on the maiden voyage. Got back and she was spitting some oil out the front,top of the motor.
Second trip,idled fine,quite pleasant to ride actually.
Could this "oil" (seems more like a mix of oil and gas),be from us trying to run it the way it was and is now just blowing itself out?
Thanks for all the help too.
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