| Author | Message | ||
     Imblasted |
Ok, so i just bought a blast with 1500 miles. I am an idiot. i knew i should check it out, and make sure the service was done. But i obviously did not do such things. I rode for 1150 miles in less than 2 weeks and now i cannot ride it anymore. The problem is that is sound like someone threw rocks into my transmission and if there is any load on the engine the transmission just spins and the engine revs. It started doing it on the highway and i said nah its just the wind pushing me too much. but then it actually stopped accelerating and started reving. i could keep it at about 45 in 4th gear but if i tried to accelerate hard it would just slip. I adjusted the clutch cable hoping to make it home. nope. now i have removed the spacer and moved the locknut all the way to the head of the adjustment bolt. finger tightened the adjustment bolt all the way tight and it still sounds horrid. I haven't tried riding it since the adjustment. I am 99.9% sure i effed the internals somewhere. I am going to take it apart tonight after work (on the clock as I type). I knew better than to keep riding it after it started slipping but i rode it until i could get out of the ghetto and park it safely as i don't have a truck or any friends with a truck. I had to wait until this morning to rent a uhaul (it cost me an extra $75 b/c my roommate got a ticket in the last uhaul and never paid the ticket!). My vance and hines pipe came in today as well and i can't go get it b/c i am working and my transportation is broken! ARGH! any suggestions before i tear this bike apart for my first time? o ya another good story... I bought her, rode for 20 mins it warmed up and then at idle she started redlining. So i rode it home. Thinking wow i really want to adjust the idle. So i get home and she is spitting oil everywhere, kinda scary. not spitting like a harley, spewing oil. So i clean her up and ride again. this time the redlining idle is still there, and now the spark plug wire popped off. It took me like 5 minutes to realize it had just spit the spark plug wire off. ok, so i get home. I take the gas tank cover off, and check the oil b/c its hot. then i go to adjusting the idle. I back the idle screw out until it doesnt touch anymore, and try to start it. It doesn't start. I get it screwed in enough to start and she starts. the next thing i know my friend is yelling shut it off shut if off! its spewing oil everywhere! i think ok well maybe it was over filled and its still spitting out the extra. I hesitate, then i see the oil fountain! Damn i didn't replace the dip stick before starting the engine... i turn it off. check the oil and it still reads full. So this week i am changing oil, changing trans fluid (cant decide between m1 20w50 vs m1 75w90 synthetics), installing my new pipe, and hoping not to die on the stupid dunlops, but i have to wait until next pay check for the tires since i foolishly never checked the bike over after fixing the idle and the over filled oil. I have a feeling i will have to replace the clutch... I know its my fault but this bike has been pretty frustrating for only having 1500 miles when i bought it. | ||
| Ezblast |
Read this: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/201 64/633655.html?1307482756 Das Boot! Is one of your problems as well - sigh... EZ | ||
| Imblasted |
i bought your superboot and it is installed already... i am going to read when im done closing. | ||
| Imblasted |
ok ive done a bunch of reading. im sick of reading. i want to tear into it and see what ive destroyed. i saw the pictures from http://www.whereismaggiemae.com/apps/photos/album? albumid=1600262 they look helpful. but before i do this i guess i need to buy some gaskets in order to reassemble correctly? I really need to get this fixed as i am supposed to be taking a trip on saturday. so i need to drain trans fluid, loosen primary adjustment bolt, loosen clutch cable, Neutral, remove foot peg arm, remove shifter, remove covers, now i can probably see what ive destroyed? would you be so kind as to point me to the manual pdf file? i cannot seem to find the manual. im looking to find your instructions for adjusting the clutch inside the primary. if i understand correctly... damn it... I don't have a torque wrench. I moved and only have tools from a bicycle store. mostly metric. Should i just say duck it and take it to the shop? I really don't want to pay someone $300 to do something i can do myself. the feeling i was describing on the highway is not the boot. it definitely is a trans problem. have you heard of anyone else not doing the first service on their blast? or am i the only blasted idiot who has bought a bike and assumed it was already done. i feel so stupid. what do you think running an extra 1500 miles with that spacer in there has done? | ||
| Imblasted |
Dan is this the best way to start with my adjustments? http://www.bcrider.com/blastclutch.html | ||
| Ezblast |
Not my boot, I'm not dan, good man though he is, you'll just have to settle for ole EZ - lol - Piece of cake - Lets start with where you finished - no need to go in the bike yet. Make sure plug is good, wire is good. To start - the loose plug wire was a big part of your problem. Now loosen arm, level out bike with block under kickstand or bike stand, then peek inside primary and see if oil is only up to and just touching the gear teeth - use a flashlight - usually clutch slipage is: too tight a primary, too tight at clutch, and the small bearing is going, or way too much fluid in the primary causing wet plates. Don't use Mobil gear oil or any hyployed gear oil - they contain sulfates. I gave you in that link the best method for adjusting the clutch, and the rest, however, for the primary do this - loosen almost all the way, go in slowly, till you feel the adjuster touch, then go back out 5 full turns. Then if no noise, adjust by the sound method mentioned in the above link. If noise very slowly adjust in till half to 3/4s the noise disappears and lock down. If the noise does not disappear, then go back out to very loose. and park, then it is time to get into the primary. EZ | ||
| Imblasted |
lol i thought u were the dan... ive been reading a lot of what you have written and i feel like youve probably covered this else where. but i can't find it. i am going to level the bike and check the primary fluid level. i did locktite the plug wire onto the plug. but im a little concerned as my plug looks like it belongs in a lawnmower (no cap like a car plug). ok go. (im doing the checks now) | ||
| Ezblast |
The cap is either stuck in the plug wire - check, or may be missing, if there is but a screw end for a solenoid then the solenoid top cap is missing, if you mean the bottom of the plug - tell us, if you can, the make and number of the plug. If you can't find solenoid cap, replace plug with a 10R12A - any HD dealership will have it in stock, since it is used in the VRod, and other Buells as well. Later you can go to the Denso Racing plug and forget your plug woes. EZ | ||
| Imblasted |
that makes no sense! for the first time ever there was a cap on the plug. it must've stuck to the threads when i put locktite on them. but i locktited the cap onto the threads now. i was trying to buy an ngk but they gave me the standard instead of iridium. so i didn't buy it. this arm is annoying to get off... i need to reinvest in my tools. | ||
| Imblasted |
omg i really need to listen to myself. when the problem started i said to myself. check the transmission fluid level. well i opened the clutch inspection cover and out came some metal shavings, never a good thing. and there is no fluid to be seen! where did it go??? the residue is a nasty brown/rust color wth? its really bad. ill show you. | ||
| Ezblast |
Don't panic yet, open er up and see what you got - so far just need a couple gaskets - all the part numbers can be found in the first part of that link I posted, an inexpensive Home Depot torque wrench will work fine. One for inch-pounds, and one for ft-lbs. will cover most. Chances are most you'll have to replace is the tension-er. EZ | ||
| Imblasted |
idk how to get the pics to work on here they want them to be tiny. email me ill send you pics | ||
| Ezblast |
Open picture with paint, edit size - mark as ratio-ed, the go 550 pixels by whatever the computer chooses to finish the ratio the n save or save as. EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
Ok - looks like bits of shoe - so order new shoe, and shoe spring, primary gasket, drain plug o-ring, and to play it safe that small clutch bearing, have a qt of oil to fill with, and wipe out inside with a paper towels as much as possible, use air to blow out nooks and crannies, and clean,you want clean as you can, then reassemble with new parts, using the suggestions found in the thread I gave you. For fast part delivery check American Sport Bike then pick your closest vendor and try them - the bearing is used by a world of Buell and HD, but the primary gasket and tension-er and spring are unique Blast items - so shop quick to get to the ride - a primary shift shaft seal would also be good to order - just in case it leeks on re-assembly and they are cheap and an easy install. EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
 EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
You shredded it when you put that adjustment all the way in. EZ | ||
| Imblasted |
i haven't ridden since the adjustment. i think it ran out of fluid at which point i rode for maybe 15 mins, knowing i shouldn't ride. but i needed to get out of the ghetto and had no other option, it was getting dark. why won't the primary cover come off? i have removed 14 bolts, the drain plug and loosened the adjustment bolt as much as possible. it is slowly dripping some dark brown fluid. it seems very heavy and full of metal shavings. | ||
| Imblasted |
ok i have to buy a new primary chain, tensioner, spring, and pin for sure. where the pin goes into the primary cover, how far is it supposed to stick out? b/c i have a "custom machined" primary cover... my chain took a few chunks out of the cover, ate my chain tensioner, pin, and spring. im going to finish cleaning out the mess and then we will see if anything else is ruined. Anything specific to look at? | ||
| Imblasted |
can i spray the whole inside of the primary with brake cleaner to aid in removing the nasty old shit and the shredded metal and plastic? before i disassemble to replace the little clutch bearing. i'm going to use mobile1 synthetic 20w50 for both fluids (i live in miami and drive the highway to key largo every weekend so thats about 300 miles just on weekends, probably double that for the whole week.) alright i need to sleep i open the store at 9 am. | ||
| Ezblast |
Primary chain should be fine - as long as there are no holes in the cover you should be fine, no don't use brakeclean, just wipe out and air out. EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
Of course if the hole for the spring is gone - then you would need a new cover, but if it is there - then you are still ok. EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
You manage an ABC? EZ | ||
| Imblasted |
ABC? I have ordered: primary chain #4000557b primary chain tensioner primary chain guide chain tensioner pin chain tensioner spring gaskets (clutch, primary) o-ring oil seal, shifter shaft why cant i use brake clean??? | ||
| Imblasted |
i cleaned the primary cover with an aerosol degreaser... uhoh | ||
| Imblasted |
EZ - Thank you very much! I finally got all the parts last night, now I just have to do the "all night work on the bike" party. o yea and buy a set of standard allens and sockets and buy a 1 1/8 and 1 3/16 sockets and a door hinge/primary sprocket locket (i think i just made that up). o and a torque wrench... doh and mobile 1 syn 20w50 motorcycle oil and oil filter. what filter do you like? | ||
| Imblasted |
o yea i'm installing my vance and hines pipe as well. but i am not rejetting yet b/c i just want to get her moving again. btw i love the CR! I think i'm going to buy an xb9r... have you ridden the xb9s? my question is, well i have 2: 1) is it MUCH more comfortable at speeds above 90 on the R vs the S? and 2) is my girl going to be comfortable on/not feel like she is going to fall off the back of the S? maybe silly questions but o well i asked 'em | ||
| Ezblast |
Do the adjustments how I listed them in that link and you should be fine. As for the 9 - it really is a personal matter - but for a lot of two up riding I would suggest the Uly. EZ | ||
| Imblasted |
ok i might be wrong here, but can i remove the engine sprocket and chain and clutch with out compressing the clutch diaphragm spring? i hope i can do it with out taking the clutch apart b/c im trying it. i know it is reverse threaded. but the main shaft nut doesn't want to be removed and i need to remove the clutch to replace the primary chain. if i don't post again its b/c my clutch exploded into my chest... but i don't think thats going to happen. | ||
| Imblasted |
 im still alive... | ||
| Imblasted |
bearing #2 replaced. used a 15 socket and a steering wheel puller... |
