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Mountainstorm
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've read over the technical archives and have not found any info that I can apply to cure the cold start issue on my Wife's P3. The carb got pretty cruddy from weather and rain water as the bike sat unused for 5 years. SO I am hoping just putting some miles on it and gas/gumout through the rebuilt carb will cure the issue...but my common sense is tingling. : D

The carb has been cleaned using spray and compressed air. Pilot and Main jets have been removed, cleaned, blown out, reinstalled. In fact I've take the carb completely to bits and cleaned and inspected it and reassembled it. Float valve works and Float angle is correct. Electric enrichener seems to be actuating, I can hear it change idle speed after about 30 seconds or so of warm up running.

das Boot is not cracked and properly installed.

Jets are 45/170. Idle screw is turned out about 3 revolutions. Needle is not shimmed. Slide and diaphram are in good order and seem to work fine.

Bike has the Buell Pro intake and exhaust.

Before sitting for 5 years the bike always started instantly (before and after the Buell Pro mods and rejet) and fell into a nice idle.

Now the bike just will not start without ether spray. However once it catches and runs for about 30 seconds it will restart fine once warmed up. It will even restart after 15 minutes or so...but after a half hour it needs starting fluid sprayed on the air filte.r

I've tried turning the throttle plate screw in a tad to crack the plate a smidge and I've played with the idle mixture screw back and forth but still no cold start. These do effect idle once running

Any ideas?

I hate to admit defeat and bring the bike to HD for service.
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Swampy
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you checked the compression?

Using starting fluid is a big no-no on any engine, they get "hooked" on it, it burns too fast and if you put too much in it will break ring lands on the piston.
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rubber cracks and rots with age - replace boot. Jeez - sat for 5 years? - replace tires as well with anything besides Dunlop - which is a dangerous tire.
EZ
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gah.



I hope I haven't done any damage to the internals.

Kids, take Swampy's advice and stay off the ether...it'll make your head asplode.
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