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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could go with the 48 for about 500 miles and then check the plug - a few weekends riding at most - If it works for ya let us know. The accelerator pump has been made to work, but the plastic parts wear in a few thousand - so I hear - so your always having to rehab it with the oil change - lol - if your too rich you'll know in about 300 hundred miles or so - lol - just carry an extra plug - if your concerned - it took me months and 5 dyno pulls to finally get the Black dialed in and its a tad lean on the primary coming in at 14.15 but between 12.75 to 13.75 for most, and the main bottoming at 11.78 but in the 12.5 to 13.25 for most. Those are acceptable numbers for a street bike with a lot of varied riding.
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried the 175 main jet today with the 48 primary.
I went for a short ride and found fuel dripping from the air box when I got back. Fuel was from the back wash(inversion). I thought I could feel a little more pull in the mid range. I put the 170 back in with the 48 primary and adjusted the idle mixture screw, open till the idle dropped then back to where the idle picked back up again. I will try that combination tomorrow. Are ther any longer intake runners or plumming before the carb that might help the air keep flowing in the right direction?
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could also have tweeked the float and got fuel overflow - that jetting should have only been a tad rich - it was the 48 pilot that would really be in question - the Kerker would be right on the line for the main 170 or 175 - both would do - lol
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whats the float setting supposed to be? I will have it all apart again in the early a.m. if it isn't too cold! With the 170 back in it it doesn't seem to be regurgitating the fuel quite so much.

edited by swampy on March 19, 2004
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put the carb on a flat surface - intake manifold side down - tilt carb 15 to 20deg. float should be parrellel to carb orifice it is covering - to decrease gas in bowl bend float(increases measurement - visa versa also) level tab toward carb body - length from face of carb flange to outboard edge of float should be between 0.413" & 0.453".
That said - you can also tweek the float by brushing it roughly? with the bowl while taking it off and on - the experience of 1 paid for replacement, and two more I replaced myself - lol - yeah they are fragile - lol
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Englishman
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone see this, from the Richmond show?

Not my idea of the ideal Blastchop though.

Blast Chop
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Totally Sweet! - Yeah there are things I'd of done differently also, but the execution is top notch. Of course the stock wheels were widened to accept bigger rubber, but I really like the interplay of stock parts with the rest. I'd sure like to see what the exhaust looks like on the other side!
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ralphthe3rd
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OMG...what an awesome Blast Chopper... Although I'm not a chopper kinda guy...but Wow !
No offense intended, but EZ must be masturbating over this pic !?
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldn't go that far, but I'd sure like to know where he got the frame!
GT - JBOTDS!
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When are one of you thumper maniacs going to slap a turbo on your P3 and show the twins what fast really is? DAMN I WANT ONE!! I'm such a cheap flint. The Blast is begging "Please turbocharge me, please?"

Cool of the chopper artist to put "Buell" on the tank in recognition of the machine's roots. Is it just me, or does the top end look significantly BIG bore?
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could be, I'm still trying to figure out if they turbo'ed it - notice the exhaust goes behind the cylinder, and yea the cylinder is a bit different in tone from its head so it could be a big bore as well - the carb also is coming more straightly to the back - I wish there where more pics to figure out whats going on with it - still its a really nice job overall and the recognition is just cool - lol
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nice looking chopper.....nice idea....rex
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Phillyblast
Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake,
I've looked into the turbo-blast thing - major PITA. I couldn't find a bike kit that would adapt very readily, and finding info was difficult as well. Still kicking it around in the back of my mind for a future project. You'r right, it's begging for a turbo. Great minds, and all right?
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Newt
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 05:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EZ, heard anything else on the chop frame? I don't think its a redneck frame, modified or unmodified. Had more thoughts I tried to post in the last couple of days but they never showed up on here. Having problems?
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V_twin_66
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ez, I've got a buddy that has a shop at home. He spent the winter rebuilding his 928 and has now offered to replace the cams in my blast. I've got a couple questions if you've got some time. I've looked through some of the archives but I really don't know much about engines so I can't make a lot of sense of it.

1st, without doing any other work to the engine can I drop in the B70's?

2nd, I gave the shop manual to my buddy and this is what he wrote back:
"Ok been reading, on 1st pass:

Manual says to remove pushrods and hydraulic lifters 1st. Well this leads to a whole bunch of other stuff some of which is a misprint, like removing the cylinder head to remove lifters must be bogus. At the most you should only need to remove the pushrods which necessitates removing the rocker cover, going to need some gaskets ...

I was thinking, if the cam is such that there is no lift it should be possible to leave the pushrods in, this might be a question worth posing to the list.

Get this though, to remove the crank position sensor you need to drill a small hole in the timing cover to remove !! Then it says to replace with a new one !!! Hahaha. Anyway going to need a camshaft seal thats behind the cranks sensor.

Anyway looks completely doable."

Any help with his questions?

Oh, also, is there a complete parts list anywhere of all the gaskets and such I'll need to do this? I'm also thinking I might as well replace the rocker box gasket while I'm in there. Anything else?

Thanks guys, I know these are redundant questions.

-stuart


edited by v_twin_66 on March 31, 2004
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not us - its been fine on my end, as for the chopper - I haven't given up yet - have some phone calls to make though. If you keep having posting problems get in contact with Blake - its definately the kind of thing he'd want to not have happen - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A little bad news to go with the good - Erik - aka Gearheaderiko - got in an accident - a broken foot, thumb, and a gash on his head - he's in ICU on watch because they want to make sure no internal clotting travels, etc. - Carol - his lovely fiancee let me know - he'll hopefully be fine - I don't think he'll be caging because of the foot, Still I want to wish him a speedy recovery and I'm sure you'll wish to do the same so send him some emails! I'll try to keep you updated while he's not on line. Sigh - yes that means one less, however, I have been informed that Eric from the far land of Arizona - lol - is trying to make it - he told me he's 90% there. This was hard for me to write because I consider Erik a friend and will sorely miss his being there - ah well - next time! Get Well Erik!
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ

edited by ezblast on March 31, 2004
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Newblaster
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hate to hear that... Too many accidents lately... Heal fast, Erik.
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Vtwin66 - the B70 would require heavier springs and guides
http://www.andrews-products.com/Downloads/andrews_motorcycle.pdf
Pg 16
I would suggest if you go that far that you do replace the springs and guides and go with the XB9 cam - as described in the KV under the 515cckit topic which gives you the whole procedure, including the hole filling and re-drilling for the timing cup. Pic up a parts catalog for the Blast - cheap and it will have a listing of all the gasket part numbers you would need. Why would I pic the XB cam - more power than the B-70 and you can use the stock pushrods and not overly worry about clearance problems though you should still check. Good luck with the project and have fun!
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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V_twin_66
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks EZ, I'll look under the 515cc kit topic. What do you do w/ the extra set of cams that come w/ for the XB9? Anyone have an extra set laying around?

Read the thread, wow! Seems like a lot of work, is it worth it at all to just use the pro-series or B50 bolt ons?

thx



edited by v_twin_66 on March 31, 2004
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yuppers - it is worth it - they really increase the mid range umph, a few extra ponies to boot and they are a Bolt In type of deal - at least as far as other modifications are concerned. I'm enjoying mine and others have been pleasantly surprised as well as to how well they improve the bikes performance.
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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V_twin_66
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EZ, Thanks for the input.

So I guess it just comes down to $$$. At some point does it just make sense to upgrade to a bigger bike? My buddy has a SV650 (standard version) and it just seems like a logical step up from a blast. Is there a down side to moving up to a bigger bike like that? The blast is my first bike and I got it really by chance more than anything, the price was right (2K) on a clean used one last spring and I haven't looked back or regretted it. But I am really just curious what motivates the blast community to to stick w/ the blast and upgrade it rather than move on to a bigger displacement twin?

thanks.

Oh, and given the work needed and dollars out I think I'll go for the B50 upgrade for now. Even I can justify a few 100 bones out of pocket for a nice seat of the pants increase.

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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All three - lol - some step up to a bigger bike, some are happy with the Blast and customize for individuality and a little extra umph, and some keep the Blast and get a second bike. The Blast is a great little commuter and errand runner - especially in the city - as I said once before - which would you rather have knocked down in the city - your trusty, cheap to maintain Blast or your shiny custom XBR - all because you parked in a busy section of town to pick up some special baked goods - lol - a good back up bike is priceless that way - lol
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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V_twin_66
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That makes sense, dumb question really. Here's a better one I hope.

Reading around the site I see that clearance may be an issue for the B70, N9, and XBR cams, if so what do you do about it? Should that scare me away from going to say the B70 w/ new springs?

I'm leaning towards new springs, B70 cams and SE timing module. Trying to keep the work at a level I can see us doing and weighing cost/benifit.

Oh, will I need new lifters too?

thanks a ton for all the feed back.
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Spooky
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is something new for some of you. Instead of using XB cams just get the new SE cams. Aaron had this to say about the new cams.

"Yes, the "E" grind is stock in both the XB9 and XB12 and it's .551 lift. For some reason, though, the XB version has the timing cup keyway in an odd place. Fitting these cams to XL motors was requiring a custom timing cup. But then HD came out with the the '04 SE cams. I bought a set and not only do the specs match the XB cams, but they're stamped "E" on the lobes just like the XB cams. It's the same grind. And the keyway is in the right place for an XL."

Eric

edited by spooky on March 31, 2004
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V_twin_66
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spooky, so does that mean the new SE cams == XB cams == Andrews N9 cams???

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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There really are not clearance problems with the XB/SE - with the rest - maybe - however, with any of those you'll have to improve your springs and guides (yup both) or you'll have some serious problems in short order.

The N-9 has a tad more lift, but I've been told that there is a dip in the mid range on that cam - just what I have heard.

Thanks - thats good news on the SE cam = XB cam with the timing hole in the right place built in - lol - well at least that work is taken care of.
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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V_twin_66
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks EZ, I think it's starting to get clear for me. So It sounds like the way to go is SE cams w/ springs & guides. I've looked around the site but can't find what springs and guides to get, just XB ones?

Also w/ new springs & guides can you safely take the rev limit to 7500 w/out worring about float?

Thanks dude!!!
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nallin told me a long time ago that any of the guides - what he or any other of the performance groups sell will do better than the stock ones. Springs - I got from Nallin but again any performance shop should be able to hook you up (Zipper, etc.) - yes that would be a fine rpm limit - I keep mine at 7100 but I'm a conservative soul - lol
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ

edited by ezblast on April 01, 2004
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Ravensmith22
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sad news for me...Caught my right side footpeg going around a corner today, ripped the rearset right off...I knew I should have raised the footpegs(Banke rearsets). I hope I can fix it.
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