| Author | Message | ||
     Ezblast |
If any of the stud is still showing - try welding a nut to it - add penetrating oil, and try giving it a turn. If you where to drill out the shaft and then run a tap, a mini computer vacuum put down the hole and ran full strength to suck out metal bits would be a very good idea - I would take the head off if I where you to drill and tap though - safer for the engine all the way around. Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ  | ||
| Joey |
Are you implying the hole goes all the way through? I've been contemplating putting it on my drill press, but that would mean I would have to unpack it and find a place for it. Looks like I need to get some gaskets, too. That's about 100 miles each way to a Buell dealer that sells Buell stuff. No, there isn't enough of a stud to get to it. They both broke off flush. Bright side: The pipe is now black! Let's see how it holds up to the heat whenever I can get to the above mentioned ... | ||
| Ezblast |
No, But that big hole right by them does - lol - if you do it on the bike I'd be worried about getting the angle right for drilling - its your call though - if you used the high temp ceramic paint that you can get at most auto stores - you should be ok - its what I use on my Bub to keep it new looking, used to use BBQ paint before I discovered this stuff. GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Joey |
Crap! I got the BBQ stuff! Crap! Crap! Crap! I'll be pulling the head off. Asked the wife if she wanted to pull my head off for me. She said she would. Wait til I tell her the head on my Blast! | ||
| Ezblast |
The BBQ stuffs ok - its just that the ceramic stuff is more durable and with a few coats you have a nice insulating effect happening - lol GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Lpd22 |
EZ - I was just on the Tach forum and viewed a sharp pix of your yellow Blast. What exhaust setup are you running? I've had several Sporties over the years, my latest is pretty beefed up, my older son has a 03 Firebolt and my younger son picked up an 01 Blast. I rode the Blast to work last weekend and had it up to 97mph with room to go. How can a 500 top out close to a stock 883? Baffles me, but impressive. | ||
| Ezblast |
LOL - thats my buddy - Sean's - aka Kaveman's Blast - he lives about 23 blocks away - lol - he's running the V&H - that will probably change to the Pro series for a quieter sound and same power profile - though its still louder than stock. Click my profile to see my bikes. That isn't his final word on the tach either - he showed me a prototype of a billet dash a aquaintance of his made - without the bend - I'll be getting that for Maul and his friend is going to put the required bend in the next one so every thing has space to fit on a regular Blast, I'll be getting one of those as well for Vader - lol - they will see about releasing them to the public after that - so stay tuned! Yeah - the Blast tends to surprise a lot of people with its abilities - thats the beauty of the bike - lol! Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ | ||
| Halfaharley |
lpd22: some of the major factors in figuring what top speed is likely to be is the HP/weight ratio and high-gear/engine speed ratio. Your 883 xl weighs about 500lb dry, and the blast is 360lb dry (stock) and the gear ratio is close, but the blast's is a bit taller. The hp/weight ratio is enough to balance out the equation which is why they top out at nearly the same speed! | ||
| Tool789 |
I have a stock 2001 Blast, it needs some personality to it. I'm planning on changing out the exhaust to a Vance & Hines. Anyone know of a better exhaust system out there? Any suggestions at all would be appreciated. Thanks. | ||
| Ezblast |
Bub, Pro series, D&D, etc. - all of them - lol GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Ara |
Sarah, Those are the big names, all right. I don't know the web sites for Bub or D&D. Also check out Supertrap - the pipe on my Transalp was a Supertrap and they also make a good looking unit for the tube-frame Buells like my S3. Love you! Dad | ||
| Sarodude |
Sarah- You should hook up with me and my girlfriend Loli. We're in the Valley. At the very least you'll hear a couple of different Blast exhausts! Have you been to any Golden State BRAG events? Good group of folks. -Saro | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
(for Tool789) & EZ, I'll say this one last time..(well maybe not the last time  ) If you mount a V&H or a Bub or a D&D or a Pro Series on a Stock /unmodified Blast....the H.P./torque numbers will be so close to each other it ain't worth mentioning. I ain't pushing the V&H.... but it ain't a bad pipe for those wanting sound and are basically only going to re-jet their carb. It will also last longer than any other pipe besides the Pro Series. But it does need repacked like any other glasspack will....And some of the other pipes that EZ mentioned CANNOT be repacked (without a hacksaw and welder) when the 'glass blows out ! The V&H has 4 allen head screws at the back of the "Can" to easily repack the 'glass. The V&H is also "Nickel Plated" on the pipe, and the excellant mounts keep things from vibrating too much and cracking. But ALL the Glasspacks ARE LOUD ! VERY !!! And EZ still doesn't get that the V&H actually has the BEST Glasspack Racing Muffler with their SS2R Cannister. It's only the headpipe diameter that limits all out power if you have a heavily modified engine. And some of the other pipes (Bub now, and D&D) use the same pipe diameter as well now! Before you badmouth the V&H Cannister- EZ, why don't you mount one to a 1 3/4 pipe and do some dyno comparisons with IT and say the D&D or Bub glasspack.... Then you'll have to shut up ! I said with a smile  | ||
| Sarodude |
Ralph- I disagree with your statements regarding the exhausts above - at least WRT the Pro Series setup. The Pro Series pipe FLATTENS OUT the torque curve. It fills the midrange dip significantly. Peak numbers don't change as dramatically as the shape of the curve - and it changes it in VERY good ways. Besides, a lot of folks really aren't after performance. -Saro | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
Saro, And I ain't talking about performance either...I'm just pointing out that any aftermarket pipe on a stock Blast gives similar performance...although i shouldn't have mentioned Torque in the comparo. Yes, the Pro Series seems to have been specifically designed to affect the Blasts inherent mid range dip, and flatten it out. And I do recommend the Pro Series as my favorite aftermarket pipe. I just always have to get EZ's feathers all in a ruffle when he dis's the V&H. BTW- Saro, my mind just went blank.... What does WRT stand for ??? | ||
| Jprovo |
WRT: with respect to | ||
| Sarodude |
Ralph- WRT = With Regard To My point is that mid range power most certainly affects performance. People forget that an engine must work THROUGH an RPM range defined by the gearbox's ratios. This makes it tough to truthfully and accurately depict what kind of power differences are relevant to one's use. Besides, it's kind of silly to separate Torque from HP. They're oversimplifications. At a given RPM, if you increase T by 10%, you've increased HP by 10%. HP = (T * RPM) / 5252 where Torque is expressed in FtLbs. So, unless you're an engine tuner trying to optimize cylinder fill and combustion efficiency, it makes more sense to talk about mid range horsepower since horsepower ultimately defines the useful application on torque. Even then, the term mid range is somewhat arbitrary. I like to think of it as the RPM you land at after you upshift from power peak - or Top End. My personal definitions - worth every penny you paid for 'em. I've never been all that certain about the V&H one way or another. I've never had a 100% functional V&H when I've had the presence of mind to do some useful data gathering. What are you running these days, anyway? As soon as my clutch woes are ironed out I'm gonna embark on a bit of a journey. Should be fun. -Saro | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
Saro...lol-- oh that WRT  D'oh ! Yeah, you're right about torque being an important factor, but.....A bone stock Kawasaki EX250R ninja can beat a bone stock P3 Blast....and the Blast has higher torque figures. If you're asking me what exhaust I'm running at the moment...? I'm back to running the Stock OEM muffler. One reason is , my baffle in my V&H shattered -while I was running it hard without knowing the fiberglass packing had all blown out for a while. The last time I re-packed it, I saw the crack......but thought it wouldn't get worse.....well- 4000miles later, metals bits were flying out...and upon opening the can...what was left was in 5 small pieces ! I'm pretty broke at the moment (as always), so I just put the OEM back on...and considering how much V&H wants for that simple Baffle tube, I dunno if I want to replace it ! I may just buy a Pro Series one day. But I've also gotten really- REALLY tired of LOUD exhausts ! And the OEM is very pleasant to me ears now. I'm hoping the Pro Series won't be too loud.....as I've not really heard one in person yet. ~Ralph P.S.- to Saro and the other SLO riders. It was really neat to see the pix of all you guys. It's nice putting a face to a net name. | ||
| Ezblast |
The V&H has the lowest numbers of all the exhausts out there, besides the stocker and Caveman is working on a stocker I gave him - as we speak and he'll probably get more power out of that - I think that the only good that can really be said about the V&H is that it looks shiney - lol - The D&D and the Bub both outperform the V&H, as does - the rest - actually they - V&H - never really did their home work on the bike or the right header size to use - they just wanted to be first in the market and it paid off for them - what does your average newbe know - a recognized brand name puts out a product and tells you its great and all you have to go by is your impressions of the stock counterpart - you tend to take their expert word and the rest follows - as for reliability - lol - the V&H has had its own share of problems, cans falling off, caps, packing, etc - lol - these are the same type of niggles all the exhausts have shared though - to one extent or another - so I'm not really going there - just pointing out that their product is not up to the quality they would pump out for HD - hell - for HD they make style and performance pipes and they are pretty trouble free - a style pipe - maybe, but there was no serious study of performance made with this exhaust design as the Pro Series shows, and that is a factory design! Not that the factory can't produce a quality piece, but that we look to the aftermarket to create even more powerful pieces - not less - lol Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ | ||
| Ezblast |
Actually the little Ninja only beats the Blast in top end/1/4 mile races - lol - GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Sarodude |
Ralph- Lemme just say that being there firsthand was infinitely better than the pictures. Hopefully someday we can get bigger, broader groups together and have some fun! -Saro | ||
| Tool789 |
EZ, Saro, & Ralph, thanks for your excellent expertise. I'd have to say, I've learned more about pipes by your comments, but I'm less sure as of which to purchase. How difficult is it to repack the V&H? Anyone have a clue as to how loud it actually is? Saro, I'm in SouthBay, never been to the BRAG events, just the socalbikes bike nights. I'm the only Buell there, that's for certain. Thanks again guys. | ||
| Ezblast |
Its pretty loud, Saro displayed how easy the cap comes off for repacking though - lol - about as loud as the rest except the Pro series which is quieter than the rest I've heard. GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Tahoeblaster |
What? Saro, didn't you ride back and pick up that cap Monday? LOL | ||
| Sarodude |
Ya know, I actually WAS looking for it on the way back!  I'm just not sure where I lost it. The motor started to feel odd slowly and get louder slowly so that I didn't notice a sudden change. Time for a new system... -Saro | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
edited by ralphthe3rd on April 10, 2004 | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
edited by ralphthe3rd on April 10, 2004 | ||
| Sarodude |
Rlaph- You are correct. My perf tube suffered the same fate as yours. I was just running the end cap. It helped the sound and broadened the powerband (compared to running completely gutted and no endcap). The end cap actually didn't fall off this time (previously the screws backed out and the cap with part of the perf tube got run over). It got TORN off from constant dragging because I had a passenger almost as big as me! Oh, and I was still trying to have a little fun on the bike. The bolt holes on the can are torn through. Anyway, I think EZ's point was that it's FREAKIN' LOUD. No, wait, a Bub is Freakin' Loud. This... Well.... Uh, yeah. Lemme get back to ya. -Saro | ||
| Ezblast |
Actually I put its issues the same as the rest - for comparisons I have other owners to call from who have tried and tested both on their bikes - that they did not contact you with such info - sorry - lol - I see you are your usual charming self - and you wonder why - lol - as for the D&D their numbers are posted, also the Bub, and the V&H - do your research please since these numbers are posted by the mfgr. or others. And as we both know - dyno tests are relative - my real point is then that others as well have found the other exhausts to perform better after trying the V&H - I never said it was that bad an exhaust just that their quality is not comparible to the products they produce for HD. They did not really research the product potential - that is self evedent if other makers of 'inferior' products can duplicate and better their numbers - point made. Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ | ||
| Tool789 |
Thanks Ralph, duly noted. |
