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Phillyblast
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone remember seeing a turbo kit for a Blast? Just curious
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Spooky
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A few years back there was a site, but the link is dead now. It was a project for Mechanical Engineering class. They used the Blast engine with a turbo to power a small go-kart size indy car. I never had any luck getting any info on the turbo size and spec.

Eric
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


These guys were working on one as an engineering project - best speculation still involves an Aerocharger.

Got Thump? Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Spooky
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The last thing I would use is an Aerocharger. I'm only saying this from my own use of one, on my car that is.


Eric
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its either an Aereocharger (for the variability of air charge handling) or a vary expensive fancy waste gate to instantly relieve presure between strokes - it could be done that way also it wouldn't have to be a total relief - just a real quick drop in presure. A blower could be built to do that but then the Aereocharger is a blower and actually a better design - people have had mixed results with them but I have noted that when and if you can get one dialed in they seem to really get the job done. I figured dialing in variable vanes would not be easy - but with computer curves and FI it could be done.
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Phillyblast
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 02:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys - that was the one I was thinking of, but I couldn't remember the school and couldn't google it - I guess since the link is dead that's why :)
Looks like a tiny aerocharger or similar blow-through design. And yeah, when you get the aerocharger really dialed in, it rips (ask FMJ and ROC). But when it doesn't run right, it can be a real pita - (again, ask ROC and FMJ).
Friend of mine has built some nasty (sub 10 second) 300 Z turbos and we were looking for a project, but we need a starting point of some sort. Hell, I'm willing to use a snowmobile blower if I need to, but it's be nice to have something that will bolt up with only minor fab.
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Sarodude
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I managed to get ONE reply from someone on that FSAE team.

He believed they were using a "Thundercat" head. A thunderstorm head makes sense 'cause it'd drop the compression. That's really the only piece of info I gleaned.

Other stuff was mentioned kinda anecdotally - like "Don't use a carb - use EFI". All told, they really didn't want to divulge much. The FSAE contest is a contest and they'd probably rather not spill their engineering efforts to competitors.

-Saro
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Sarodude
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The Buell blast engine was turbo charged with a Garret GN17 variable vane turbo. We had our engine carborated, but I would highly recomend EFI. The head was a Thunderstorm, or Thundercat from HarleyDavidson. The compression was stock."

Stumbled across the email. There it is. Just note that compression cannot be stock with the Thunderstorm head...

-Saro
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Phillyblast
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool thanks. I'll google it and see what I can find.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check around some of the ATV boards, some of the
atv crowd are running turbos on their Singles which is essentially what a Blast is. There is a San Diego based company that was at Springfest in AZ that showed up with a Turbo Yamaha Blaster.
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