| Author | Message | ||
     Johnnylunchbox |
Just a thought, but has anybody explored making a Stainless braided Carb boot? My wife's Buell has the pro series intake, but no brace. I temporarily used a zip tie to "hang" the airbox. It seems to have taken a lot of pressure off of the boot. However I am always looking for a better solution. And I definitely want to pack an extra carb boot when we hit the road. I drilled a small hole on the back of the air filter cover, and a small hole in the gas tank cover, where it would be hidden by the seat, and laced a zip tie through it. I may even make a rigid aluminum mount still using those same holes. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Oh I forgot to ask? Is there a good online source for the stock carb boot. I'm not that close to a H/D dealer. | ||
| Ezblast |
Check our sponsors and the link sources for resources for the boot! See the Carb Archives for mountings that have been doe - pics posted. Others have proven that it can last, but the mounting is very subjective to most on how tight tight is on the clamps, and you must make sure the clamps are inside the holding areas of the boot. So far my lightweight Torque stack and filter boot have lasted the longest, and still seems fine. GT - JBOTDS! EZ  edited by ezblast on July 14, 2004 | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Well it finally happened. We started her up this morning and she was sputtering, and lo and behold...we experienced the dreaded torn carb boot. I need to get a real bracket on there. I am going to explore having a machine shop maybe turn one out of polyurethane or something a little stronger. I definitely need someone more creative than me to fashion a bracket...apparently my zip tie method was a failure..lol | ||
| Rockbiter1 |
perhaps you just didn't account for vibration eating the soft nylon of the zip tie...i made hanger out od .032" stainless safety wire, double twist, angled so it will support the carb, but still allow for vibration (i hope) lol. Should wear a bit better than nylon, and is easily replaced if it breaks  good enough for the air force, good enough for me..... | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
The zip tie, was still intact. The boot tore on the inside (left hand side). I had a few people sitting on the bike friday night, and I bet they were squeezing the air intake with their knee. Anyway...the local (sort of) dealer is stocking up on boots, and I'll pick up at least two on friday. In my previous post I mentioned using polyurethane. I was talking about making a boot out of this, not a bracket. Anybody have a reason against this idea? | ||
| Ralphthe3rd |
Would that -polyurethane, be HEAT and solvent resistant ?! ...there is alot of heat coming off the back of the head..... | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
I don't know, I'll have to talk to my brother. He's an engineer and would know materials a lot better than I would. On another note, I was looking at the Buell website and noticed that on their picture for the pro-series intake, there is a small bracket that runs from somewhere around the bottom of the carb to what looks like the cooling fins on the cylinder. I don't have one of those and called HD dealer to look into it. They have not called back yet, but I'll give them until tomorrow. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
It's an optical illusion. No such part exists. The parts lady at HD went all over trying to get me an answer. Oh well...back to the drawing board. | ||
| Ezblast |
See The Carb section for ideas and reasons for various mountings - time for homework! Good Luck! GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Just a follow up: The new carb boot seems to be holding up well. I neatly wrapped it in a layer of duct tape (just to be experimental). I also ran a safety wire from the bottom of the carb to an engine mount under the tank, in an attempt to take some weight off the boot. The new carb boot seems more rigid than the old one. I don't know if it is made of different rubber, or if the old one was already on its way out when I bought the bike. Time will tell. | ||
| Jprovo |
I just had one finally fail on me after 10,000 miles with no support. I could feel that the bike was running kind of lean, popping through the carb and such. The boot has a small tear in it under the intake manifold clamp. The local dealer got me two replacements, and I'm still thumping along. 28,000+ and counting. James | ||
| Kdk102 |
well i changed the jetting to a 45 slow 180 main and i still have the annoying power loss at random times i was cruising about 45mph and it just pops and hesitates and keeps on running i replaced the boot a couple weeks ago since i blew it apart and i think when i was working on it i may have torn the new one so i replaced it any one have any possible explienations i have braced but i am looking for better methods and look forward to any help you can give me | ||
| Ezblast |
Springs work if you keep your knee off the intake, and remember to keep everything snugged (vibration will loosen clamps due to extra weight). GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Jprovo |
KDK, It sounds like your bike is running lean. With a 180 main, that should not happen on top, if anything it sounds too rich. So, something else besides the jetting is a problem. Check for exhaust leaks, check the ignition timing, and you might drill out the low speed idle adjustment and set it 2 turns out from a light bottom. BTW, I'd loose the carb bracing. I got almost 10,000 miles out of an unbraced carb boot, sometimes the bracing will not actually help if it is not set up just right. For me, 10,000 miles out of an unsuported boot is perfectly acceptable. James | ||
| Bhawk |
Just a thought.....could the autoenricher be the culprit on power loss? | ||
| Bhawk |
Bought a splitfire Plat. plug #HDB12P part# 32822-01Y.......too hot? | ||
| Ezblast |
Not if it corresponds to the 10R12. Go to a 175 jet to regain power, and turn your air mixture screw out to 3 turns from light bottom - should do it. This asumes a good boot in place. As for the feasability of springs - DP now mounts them when installing a Proseries intake - lol GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Mmelvis  |
Well left work today and went out to start the bike, all it did was sputter and not start. Sounded like it was not getting a spark. Well I looked down and noticed that the intake was a little wobbly. (Side note installed the pro-series intake about 10 days ago). Well squeezed my right leg a little in and the biked kicked right up, let the pressure off and the bike would die. Intake boot sprung a leak, a real big leak. Any way I was lucky enough to get a ride home. Picked up my trailer and hauled the bike home, sure enough after a little inspection the boot had torn almost half way around. I was ready for this though thanks to all the badweb folks and EZ for saying keep a spare boot handy. Guess next time I should keep one on the bike. Now for the question of the day....Where can I keep a spare boot on the bike ? Any suggestions ? Have a great day. | ||
| Ezblast  |
LOL - under the seat - GT - JBOTDS! EZ | ||
| Buellkat  |
I have a small cordura fork bag, small but plenty big enough to hold simple items. Boot would fit. Under the seat isn't much room except for ziploc bag full of papers....registration, insurance. LOL Kat | ||
| Ezblast |
actually you can zip tie it under the seat in front of the battery area - lol - but it will fit under the seat area - just got to be creative - lol - GT - JBOTDS! EZ (Message edited by ezblast on January 06, 2005) | ||
| Mutt2jeff  |
All I can fit under my seat is a small first aid kit and my papers, so I may have to try zip tying some stuff down by the battery, lol | ||
| Tnthumper |
Does anyone know the inside diameter for the intake boot? I was looking on Home Depot's website and looked under plumbing transition fittings and they have some 1 1/2 inch rubber fittings and it's either one that has a metal outside cover or just the cover.not sure need to go look tomorrow. just thought it may be stronger and last better than stock boot. | ||
| Xgecko |
I used one of those plumbing fittings for a while...my dealership had my intake boot on order for about a month and I got tired of the bus...it's actually a water heater fitting so it would likely last...I built a bracket shortly afterwards and haven't had a problem since (well for a year anyway) but the bike has been in storage for three years now so it's not likely to be a problem. | ||
| Tnthumper |
Xgecko, There are 2 different fittings I looked at. one is rubber only and the other is rubber with a sort of corrogated metal all the way around and over whole length and clamps tighten the metal cover. I was kind of thinking that if it will seal the metal might help support weight of carb and last longer. And since it's only about $6 or so it wolud be less expensive than stock. The rubber only fitting with clamps is under $4 with tax. MIght be an emergency alternative that would be less expensive til you could get stock boot. Thanks, John | ||
| Xgecko |
I used the one with metal cover it worked fine while I didn't have a brace...I just prefered having the brace and the more stable mounting it provided (Message edited by Xgecko on September 20, 2005) | ||
| Tnthumper |
I have a support I made up that goes under carb to support the weight but is not bolted to carb. If the 1 1/2 inch fitting works I may try the one with the metal to add some more strength to the whole deal. JOhn | ||
| Flrider7 |
EZblast, I couldn't find this in the archives, maybe I missed it. I know you have experimented with a lot of intake boot set ups, and after looking at the boots and clamps on the new Triumphs, I wondered if you have tried tried these yet. The boots appear to be about the same size, but most important, the clamps are solid (no slits going around that can cut into the boot) all the way around using a threaded post for the adjustment rather than the screw threads tightening using the slots. The clamps do not seem as wide though, so maybe they don't have enough surface area across to spread out the torque without pinching. I would love to hear your opinion o master of carb boots! | ||
| Ezblast |
I'll stop by Monroes and check them out Tuesday after work is it the Bonnie? GT - JBOTDS! EZ (Message edited by ezblast on September 30, 2006) |
