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Ldbandit
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is the support system an Ezblast mod, or a Buell "kit"?

btw, I REALLY like the clean look due to the lack of air boxes/covers, etc. Looks good.
:)
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Spooky
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's an Ez mod
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Sarodude
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EZ-

Word of advice on the Dial a Jet: The little retaining rubber band for the snorkel kit that holds the rubber thingie onto the Dial A Jet goes bad rather quickly for me. Mine now has a zip tie on it.

Also, I wound up venting my DaJ to the float bowl in the hopes that it would see the same types of altitude compensation that the float bowl does. This is under the premise (HIGH potential for fallibility here) that a large degree of the CV carb's altitude compensation comes from an almost pitotstatic type of effect the float bowl receives from its vent getting air affected by velocity. Not sure how better to state this.

Anyway...
-Saro
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Newblaster
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EZ- You should market that system. Call it "EZ's Blast Carb Brace". You could make great money with it!
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Fssnoc2501
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only if I get part of the profits.

Ray
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Shotgun
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EZ- You should market that system. Call it "EZ's Blast Carb Brace".

Onlyest thang uglier would be a brace of balin' wire, bubblegum and duct-tape. GeezLouise. Don't put EZ's name on that contraption.
Yeah, maybe it works, but come on fellers, all y'all can do better.
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeh guys! Mine's just an example by an average guy at home

Make it better than this and I'll copy it myself - I've no shame and am always willing to learn! I'm sure - right now dozens of others are designing better - lol - what I know is that mine is solid and yea - if I was into shiny I could have cleaned it up quite a bit - but I'm not - I'm into riding and my bike looks fine! You could duplicate the whole thing in nice stainless and a clear urethane bushing sliced and the whole thing would look slick. Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ldbandit
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EZ,
Sweet bike. Showed the pic to my wife and she ooh'ed, ahh'ed and proclaimed she wanted HER bike to look like that.
hehe, now it will be EASY to justify some spendage on the new toy.

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Guess I wasted money on the K&N, eh?


(No - untill the intake is seriously mod - the K&N and the airbox mod is as close to breathing like a stack as it gets! - Moderator;0))

edited by ezblast on July 22, 2003
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Remember - she's a dailly driver- 3 days a week. I'll spruce it up as I go along, but first it had to work! Naw (DON'T THROW AWAY THE FILTER TILL YOUR TOTALLY COMMITTED TO DOWN TIME AND GETTING THE INTAKE RIGHT!)- the intake was the hardest part to dial in on the bike out of everything, took months of trying over and I went thru 3 intake boots - have a little over 500 miles on this setup though and its solid - lol - but the reason the red bike will get the pro - intake is because it has protection against water ( though it will probably need a few mods;0)), therefore all the experimentation on the Black will pay off on the Red! Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ




edited by ezblast on July 22, 2003
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Ldbandit
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for update/advice.

Another couple of questions:
1.) Is there any drilling necessary to get to the air/fuel mixture screw? Saw the question early in the archives, but never saw a response.
2.) When I strip the float bowl screws, how do I get them out, what size is the replacement, and where do I get those guys??

Should be attempting this in a couple of weeks. Can't get it this weekend.
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Kyuss
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Q: I've got oil dripping off of my engine case when parked for a long period of time. Took a look up under and it seems to be starting to puddle up underneath my carb area? anyone care to take a guess?

I've got to fix it ASAP as I am escorting the race officials for the IRONMAN NORTH AMERICA on nonstop(except for gas, obviously) loops around the 120 mile bike portion of the race. ANd it seems to leaking fast.
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aaron - have you rerouted your breather? If not some high rpm constant riding will cause your bike to spit oil out the breather aimed at your carbs throat - dripping instead. That or rocker gasket are the usual culprits, if its any other gasket you may have problems - so try to locate the leak.

Hugh - yes you have to drill out the plug - carefully - to get to the air mixture screw - (sometimes this is done for you by the dealer before you even buy the bike - sometimes not - depends who set up the bike for sale origionally) - lol -
Aaron - let me know about your leak please.
Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ

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Jprovo
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

starter motor gasket, stator wires, base gasket....

Some pics would help.

James
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Shotgun
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The new race intake for Blasts is great! Easy install. It does add a few decibles over stock. It is light weight. Haven't come up with a sure-fire method of securing it, but will try some soon.
Order it.
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Halfaharley
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 03:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone experimented with a fan in the intake system on a blast? Would something like a couple 40mm/8 CFM computer fans do any good for increasing airflow, or would they just get in the way? I was thinking, it would be fairly easy to control the fan speed using the same method that is used for triggering the spark advance with the electronic sensor in the carb.
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Jprovo
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would something like a couple 40mm/8 CFM computer fans do any good for increasing airflow


check out the do a keyword search for "Electric Turbo" this topic has been hashed around pretty good.

James
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Shotgun
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You gotta add a brace if you put the new Buell Pro Series intake on.
I made fun of EZ's.
My bike broke down with mine on tonight. Rubber boot broke between carb and intake manifold.
Capri Tropical punch packaging and duct tape from a power pole (last week's garage sales) got me limping back home with left hand on carb to hold it in place.
Confession is good for the soul.................................. I feel better already. I'll let you know when I have my carb bracket developed.
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was thinking - the racers run just two springs on theirs, I think the intake bolt to that bottom part of the carb that sticks out with the bushing slice may be all that is really needed - though I read that equalizing would have to be on both sides of the carb - so the other side is braced as well - also you'll want to think about the way force is of the brace will act on the rubber boot - I try to have all mine aimed toward the cylinder to lessen stretching/cracking forces - most of the ideas I studied from Ray and Tony, severall conversations with Ralph, and very insightfull talks with Nallin, and also ideas from some thumper racing boards, plus material upgrade from DP - spring steel for the main brace - Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ldbandit
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EZ
"I went thru 3 intake boots"

Are these the same boots as what just broke on shotguns?
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yup - did yours go in stock trim? That makes you a hella hard rider - lol - GT - JBOTDS! EZ

edited by ezblast on August 01, 2003
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Buellkat
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Am I going crazier or what?! When the Blast Intake was first posted on the BUELL website the price was $69.95.....today it is $89.95. Anyone know about this? TYIA
Ride Safe....
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Jprovo
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I always remember seeing $90

James
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Sarodude
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ditto on on the $90.
-Saro
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Shotgun
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Two ideas for supporting the pro series intake:
1. Modify the lower half of the stock plastic intake, the part that held the filter and secured the carb at the venturi and tied into the bike by bolting to both side of the case. Not sure if it can be cut down enough to be out of the way and still have enuf strength to support the carb. And tuff to make it look anything but ugly.
2. Use the accelerator pump as the carb connection, it is unused on the Blast, can be tapped out to accept 3 bolts. Was thinking a piece of 10 ga, 3" X 8" with a 90 degree break about 1.25" from one end would allow me to use 2 of the tranny case bolts to secure it.
Somehow, springs pulling into the engine case don't seem like enuf and tuff to get evenly pulled towards the intake manifold.
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2003 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I talked with a lot of different mechanics - one of their favorite ideas was to take the back plate of a regular sporster carb intakefilter - and cut it down so that the only thing left is tabs for the braces - not a bad idea but I was going for the least amount of weight also - bikes been on a diet since I bought her - now if I did the same - I could probably make an even better top end bonzai run - lol - good luck - remember use your intake for a target for where the forces should evenly be aimed! And where your going to moount all your mounts? - I just mounted the 1 from the intake - thin rubber washer top and bottom with washers on each end to evenly distribute pressurebetween nut bolt and carb housing - ! I didn't figure springs by themselves would work either, but I did figure that their tension would help equalize forces - with just a dab of needed give and take, and keep the forces in general going in the same direction. Hey the springs give it a real racer look - lol - you don't see that on stock! - lol - hope some of this helps! - I'm going to go ride! Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Gpuckhead
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My wife has a Blast. When it runs she likes it. Now for the second time in as many months it is backfiring which is probably the intake boot. This has to be the worst design ever! I mean it won't even idle, where last week it ran fine. Has anyone come up with something that the mighty Buell engineers can't figure out? We were just about to go with new exhaust, jetting and air box mod, but I don't know if we want to spend the money on a POS bike like this.
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Ezblast
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do what I do - change your intake boot with the oil - every two grand and you should be ok - hey - watch that! I like this bike! - lol - GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Xgecko
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK folks about the intake boot when I tore mine I searched for a replacement and found a pretty good one in the form of a furnace pipe connector. high temp rubber with a metal shield that stiffens and bolts it all together. the only problem with it was that it didn't stay sealed under lots of flexing...not an everyday thing just something else than needed checking
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Sarodude
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2003 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Around 12,000 or so miles, our Blast ate ONE intake boot. Granted, it shoulda eaten NONE - but something else is probably afoot for those regularly thrashing theirs. It's at 15,000 or so now.

Just an opinion.

-Saro
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Xgecko
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Saro...remember some of us have alternative intakes



(lol - Moderator)

edited by ezblast on August 04, 2003
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