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Jprovo
Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Saro,
Maybe a 1 into 2, definitely a longer head pipe.
I hope it weighs less than stock, then again, more weight will likely mean more engine vibes.

James
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Joey
Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm... My exhaust cost $90. I suppose I better polish the rust off and put a coat of something on it. Damn road salt! Is there something cheap that's better than high-temp black paint?
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Sarodude
Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joey-

I hear BBQ paint is good for exhausts. There are also some high tech coatings that stand up to the temps and work to keep as much heat in the exhaust as possible.

How did they get the little shoulder for the snap ring on that exhaust? Did they sacrifice the stock pipe, weld something on there, use some special flaring sool, or ???

-Saro
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Joey
Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He used a 1 7/8" pipe, flared it slightly, then tapered it, and did away with the snap ring. He just used the old hold-down thingy (I'm sure it has a name) to hold the pipe in. It sealed quite well. That piece is a few inches long. To that, he welded 1 3/4" pipe for the rest of the exhaust.
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whats the diameter of the new Blast exhaust header pipe? Curious folk wish to know? Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Mx114g
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What exhaust system is the best based on performance?(top 3) White Bros is tuneable and has a torque valve, is that the best going? Does anyone have any performance numbers from the new Buell Performance Pipe? I'm going to be getting a new pipe in the next month and want to get the most bang for the buck.
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Ravensmith22
Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi. I just had my Blast delivered today. If it weren't only 4 degrees outside, and windy, I'd probably be riding(sigh...). Anyway, I'd like to see a comparison of the different mufflers, myself. I'm curious to see how they compare in hp, noise, and torque. I'm going to be doing mostly freeway riding to and from work, and would like to be able to pass cars if I need to. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go with the Factory hi-po- unless - well ...you know;0) - Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Think on this - use all the factory hi-po pieces gain a factory backed 15 ponies and enjoy(including cam and rumored intake) then if you still want more, come back and ask - thats when you would get a different answer. Highest hp still goes to the Force pipe - jetting required, and intake mod.s recomended. There is only one cam fit for a stock engine, so then its time to - ... yup - you know - Nalinize;0) - Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Ravensmith22
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 05:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, EZ. I have a friend at my dealer(St. Paul HD) who works in the service department. I'll ask him about the pro-series. He said that he can get me 10% off stuff. I really like the people at SPHD, they're good folks. I'll stop in to chat with my friend, or Mark the salesman. They always make time for me. I would definately recommend this place to others.
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Ravensmith22
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone out there used the Kerker exhaust? I've been told that Kerkers are decent pipes. I just want to add a little hp and torque to my bike, without spending too much. If anyone has good ideas, I'd appreciate the feedback.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Raven,
My wife's Blast has a Kerker on it and I really like it. Very well built, easily installed. Has a nice throaty growl to it and gave a noticeable improvement in the midrange rpms. I have not rejetted the carb yet to take full advantage but even without that it runs quite well.
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Ravensmith22
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Dan. I appreciate the tip. I'll look into the Kerker some more.
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get the Force or White Brother, if ya like torque - the Bub - a great all around - would be the new factory hi - po. The only really good thing about the Kerker is that you can ditch their can setup and put on the ST setup - using their well tuned header pipe. Just my 2 cents. Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Jamaicadog
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello all, this is my first time logging onto this site. Bought a Blast last summer, with the intention of riding it for a season (my first) then graduating to a bigger bike. I'm thinking I will keep it for at least another season though, for a lot of different reasons...$$, I really like the bike, $$, etc. Now, my question, if anyone'd care to field it, might seem stupid because I know precious little about motorcycles, but it concerns exhaust: I have a Vance&Hines slip-on for this bike...does putting this exhaust on make it necessary to make other adjustments? Thanks a lot -Jamaicadog
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it a full V&H exhaust - or a slip on can? Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Jamaicadog
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The full monty. I put it on the end of last season, and just started it up last week after a loooong winter.
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK - if your below 3500 altitude consistently - go to 175main/45low-secondary carb. jetting - theres other things you could do but thats the needed. After that your good to go! Keep on thumping!

Got Thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Jamaicadog
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yah, I'm in snowy Boston, so always below 3500. Thanks for the help!! Not even sure what carb jetting is, but I'll soon find out. Thanks again
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Fssnoc2501
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joseph,

Carb jetting ain't no big thang if you have a service manual. Otherwise find someone that does or someone familiar with motorcycle carbs. You can buy a dynojet kit for too many $$ or just go get the jets the EZ noted at your friendly local Buell dealer for a few bucks.

Jetting will make a great deal of difference. Then you will want more, but that is the essence of motorcycling :).

Ray

P.S. I bought the Dynojet kit which I later found was very not necessary. Don't follow the directions in the kit for jet choices. Their choices are a bit too lean.
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Jamaicadog
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ray and EZ,
Thanks! After a season of riding this Thumper stock I'm really excited about tinkering with it to really make it mine. This site is a godsend. I'll probably just get the jets sans kit, and go from there. I'm lucky to have a good small shop (Milwaukee Iron)right around the corner from me. I never get the impression that the local large HD/Buell dealer here is super accomodating to Blasters (except to sell them). But last summer when I took the Blast to Milwaukee Iron, the old Harley shop proprietor seemed perplexed but intrigued by the Buell, he'd never had one in the shop before. Anyway thanks again and I'm sure I'll be on here quite a bit to tap your brains as I start futzing around with the bike. Now if only it would stop snowing...bad weather is one thing but icy roads in April is ridiculous!
J-dog.
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 03:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Need Help-Installed a brand new White Bros exhuast & right out of the box it leaked.Called White the next day & they said my 2 options were a)put some silicone on the seam(where it leaks) or b)send it back & they will pull it apart & repack & reseal it.My Question(White Bros exhaust users):Has yours leaked?how long have you had it(miles)?any problems?My concern is I don't want to get stuck with a $280.00 exhaust that needs constant maintenance.
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Blastin
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Erik,

I have a White Brothers that I installed about 3,000 miles ago. Haven't had any problems as of yet.

I'm not clear as to what you mean by "leaked". Do you mean the exhaust "can" has a bad weld or a whole where it's not supposed to be?

I would recommend that you also change the carb jetting to a 45 pilot jet and at least a 170 main jet.

Jerry
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Jerry.It leaks exhaust gasses at the riveted seam on the front of the muffler(can).The front of the can is actually sealed w/ silicone when assembled.I would think welding would be more durable. Erik
Anyone elses experience?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, the can is not sealed w/silicone from the factory.They only use sealer on repacks & warranties so they are sure not to leak again.So,what I got back from WB today is 'better than new'.They were prompt & helpful while I was there and I even got some money back. Jerry thanks for responding.
The ins. say no jetting required & to bump up the timing 4 degrees.Did you adj. the timing? Did the jetting make a difference(if you ran w/ & w/o the jetting)?
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Blastin
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad to hear they took care of you. Good to see.

I changed the jetting when I put the pipe on, but I did not change the timing. I did not run without the jetting change so I couldn't tell a differce between the "pipe" and "pipe with jetting".
On that note, you are putting a better breathing exhaust on the bike, so changing the jetting would be adviseable. There are better experts here to ask for really detailed advice.

When everthing is up and running you will have found that huge torque whole in 3rd, 4th, and to some extent 5th gear(you should then be able to accelerate in 5th while going uphill.:) Whoohoo) It will be a very noticeable difference the first couple times you run it through the gears, as well as, when you exit a turn and roll on the throttle.

Jerry

That Nallin Kit is starting to whisper things to me.:)
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Sarodude
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The problems people keep having with the intake boots make me wonder - not really about the boots themselves but about what might be causing failures.

One thing I've noticed in the bunch of times I've had the carb / airbox on & off is that maybe order of tightening stuff up may contribute to well being (or lack of). For example, imagine that you've attached the carb to the intake boot and tightened down the hose clamps. Then you install the airbox to the carb and bolt the airbox to the motor. It's enitrely possible that you may be putting some type of torque on the boot - and maybe it doesn't like that.

What am I saying? Tighten the hose clamps last. Don't know if that'll do anything or not - and we probably shouldn't go around thinking of this as anything definitive. Just something additional to keep in mind...

If you've got a non-stock intake, all bets are off. How many people have and intake boot failures with the airbox? How many people can recall their installation sequence?

-Saro
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Ltlboybuell
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I gotta be doing something wrong ... unless I'm REALLY moving, if I try to accelerate on flat ground in fifth the thing lugs on me and I gotta hit 3rd or even 4th :(

"...When everthing is up and running you will have found that huge torque whole in 3rd, 4th, and to some extent 5th gear(you should then be able to accelerate in 5th while going uphill. Whoohoo) ..."
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't even shift into 5th till around 65 to 70mph - she's solid for me also - perhaps your primary chain is a bit tight? Found to be a big power robber;0( Got thump?! Just Blasting on the Dark side! EZ
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Buelliedan
Posted on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my wifes Blast she can't use 5th unless doing at least 65mph. Anything less than that and it bogs out. And she only weighs 100lbs.
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