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J10b
Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The stockers require us to buy the only tire made for the bike.
Does anyone know if You can put a bigger rear tire or maybe the front tire o another bike?
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Jprovo


Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

J10B

Front tires run on the back of the Blast is a bad idea, according to the manufacturers and tire vendors.

You might be able to fit a 130 Kenda, check out the airchives of the wheel and tire section of the knowledge vault for more.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/20164/20273.html?1105070000,http: //www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/20164/20273.html?1105070000

James
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Avon & Pirelli both make tires specifically for the Blast. Cheng Shin makes a 130/80? (not sure of size) that will fit the rear. Kenda makes a 140/70 that will fit (its technically a scooter tire, but can be run with no problems unless you're running 96mph all day).Quite a few fronts will fit but you may have to relocate the front fender upwards.
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J10b
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are scooter tires bad ideas?
I dont want to sacrifice something for a bigger tire which isnt my goal.
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Ezblast


Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Kenda's are a bit hard - great for commuting but not so great in corners, the Pirelli Scooter tire in the same size as the Kenda has been dificult to get in the US - even though I read that they where going to bring it to the US - when is the question - if the Pirelli scooter tire is modeled after the MT75 as it looks like then we would definately have a winner on our hands - the problem being to find a distributer in the US though. If you find one give us a shout! Till then I'll stick to the MT75 Pirelli.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Technically speaking anytime you increase tire size you will affect handling. Although the height may be the same, the width and crown will affect cornering. The added weight will eat up horsepower and decrease braking power. It will also add to unsprung weight giving a harsher ride and poorer handling. As always, trade offs!
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Ethanr


Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've put together the beginnings of a comments/comparisons table. If you're interested, check out the new "Tire Comments" thread in the tire section of the KV and give some feedback.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOuld a Dunlop 130/90x16 be too tall for the Blast?

Thanks.
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Ezblast


Posted on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Swampy


Posted on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Kenda worked well on the Big Kids Blast, he got about the same mileage as the stock tire. With the bigger Kenda on the back and the original tire up front there wasn't any handling problems that I could tell.

I am going back to get the Kenda for the rear so the question now is what size Kenda should I put on the front seeing the front tire now needs replacement?
EZ?
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Ezblast


Posted on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That would be the 100/90 - 16 - the other tire is considered a bit squirrelly - you got to remember, they where made for scooters - lol - but if I could get hold of the pirelli in those sizes that they sell in Europe (not here though so far) we may then have a more interesting tale especially with the 110/70 Pirelli.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EZblast - what would be recommended if the stock size wasn't available?
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Ezblast


Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stock is fr - 100/80-16 - you can use safely - the 100/90-16 as well in front (the unobtainable in the US Pirelli 110/70-16).
Rear - rr is very limited basically to 120/80-16 with the following brand exceptions the Chen Shing 130/80-16, the Kenda 140/70-16 (and the unobtainable in the US Pirelli 140/70-16). You could probably grey market the Pirelli's in but no one has so far;0)
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Swampy, what about throwing on a sticky Pirelli for the front? Since the Kenda, I presume, was only put on for the extra width.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 02:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks EZ!!!!
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm. can't find a 130/80 x16 Cheng Shin..all I see is the 130/90x16.
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Ezblast


Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chen Shin - Barracuda! V - rated - http://www.accwhse.com/chengshi.htm
look a bit harder - lol
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AHA!!!!! I see it now!!!LOL I think I may go with the Kenda K671 140/70x16 if my local bike shop can order it.
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Swampy


Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any Pics of the Pirelli front? What model?
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Ezblast


Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

GTS23f&24r - so far not available in the US


GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Buellkat
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Should I have the same Name Brand on front and rear?
I still have the stock Dunlop (front) and replaced the rear with Avon....just curious
Thanks
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellkat,

Are you going to White Cloud on May 14 for the food run?
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kat:
Ideally, you should have matched set of tires on front & rear (same brand,same design). It's really not going to matter much though.If it did, you'd have noticed it by now.
I've run different tires front & rear for years.
Now, mismatching non stock tire sizes and different brands may be a different story.
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Buellkat
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Swampy tell me more.......have not heard of it yet...

Erik, thks, the Avon is new last season, I just started riding on it, been taking it easy to "break" it in...I will have to be aware of how it is handling. I just got it all back together from replacing the stator and was listening to the primary, etc and everything else. LOL
kat
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Gearheaderiko
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldnt worry about it Kat.JProvo (James) is a big fan of Avons and I'm pretty sure he's run your tire combination. He can ride pretty hard, so If there was a problem, I'm sure he would have said something.
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Jugallo94
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am supposed to go to whitecloud for the blessing on the 15. that is if my bike is back from the shop by then. Damn harley dealers.
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Swampy
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

White Cloud Area 3rd Annual Food Fling.

Entry fee: non-perisable food plus $5.
Registration: Capers 9:30am-last bike out 11:30.
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Sorry to be so off topic rest of world!

(Message edited by swampy on April 25, 2005)
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Jprovo
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kat, you should be okey dokey with that tire combo.
James
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Buellkat
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks everyone for the tire comments
& to Swampy for the local ride info!!

Jugallo....kewl!

Kat

(Message edited by buellkat on April 25, 2005)
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I got home from Cheboygan today the brown christmas van had left the Avon MT51. The Little Kid and I strung up the Big Kids Blast and pulled the front tire off and installed the Avon. I took it out for a ride and even with the square Kenda on the back it seemed fine. I can't wait for the rear Avon to show up. There was no light spot marked on the tire but it ran smooth at 75 MPH so I am not going to have it balanced.

(Message edited by swampy on April 28, 2005)
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