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Phillyblast
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken,
I'm pretty sure the OEM size is about as wide as you can get, mainly because (Blake feel free to step in with a contact patch correction here) the stock rim width will just distort the wider tire, making it effectively taller, and causing contact with the rear shock mount. I do recall someone posted they got a slightly larger tire on the rear, but not by much.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Saro,
We both might be correct in the sprocket hitting issue. I very well might have leaned it past the edge of the tire, which then caused it to drop down to the point of hitting the sprocket. However it happened it wasn't a fun thing!! My shorts definately needed to be pulled out!!
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Sarodude
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, at least you HAVE the confidence to lean the thing that far... I'm such a wimp in that regard.

I feel more comfy flogging the FXD! I scrape pegs, exhaust brackets, and some engine gaurd under the bike (when 2 up) wishing that the bike had more to offer. The stock Blast's suspension just feels too squishy for my (lack of) skill & confidence and (abundance of) weight.

-Saro
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can anyone tell me what the specs on the stock cams in a 2001 P3 are?

I recently purchased a XB9R and made the decision to keep my P3 and monkey with it. We are shooting for 60RWHP and a quick run down of the mods to be included are:

Nallins Blaster Big Bore 515cc kit
Modified Thunderstorm Head
Kerker or D&D Exhaust system
New intake

I was wondering if it would be beneficial to put new cams in or keep the stocks, but I need to know what the specs on them are.

Thanks in advance,
Bryan
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Sarodude
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think they're identical to ones found on the 1200 'S' model Sporty. Referred to as the W grind.

I imagine specs should be readily availble for that...

-Saro
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Blake
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Darthane,
I think you will be SERIOUSLY disappointed if you are shooting for 60 RWHP out of a 515cc Blast big bore kit. That's over TWICE the stock output. I think 50 RWHP, something Nallin Racing has already shown is possible, is a much more realistic goal. Sixty RWHP is 20% more power than 50 RWHP. Good luck though! If you make 60 RWHP, I'd like to talk to you about building a Blast engine. :D
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Dantheman
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Of course you can make 60 rwhp out of a blast. Just use nitrous! But it may only make that 60 hp once before it blows...
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Rd350
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well after 3 weeks of calling and calling Brian Nallin about sending me the big bore kit and the head. I get a box today from the UPS guy. What do you know I get the head but not the big bore kit. So I am back on the phone with Nallin. Seems that someone in shipping forgot to put it in the box. Said he would get something in the mail next week. Time will tell if I will ever get the Blast working...

But at least it is so HOT you can't go riding. Yesterday I was in the parking lot of Home Depot in Boise, Id. get this 117 F. And today I am in Salt Lake City, Ut it is 105 F. Just to HOT for riding..
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Dansherman
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I went waterskiing the otherday, first time this season. I was soooo sore, and the stretch to the clubman bars didn't help anything. I mounted the stock bars back up, and rode down to my girlfriends house (the 140 mile run). What follows are some thoughts:

[-] You actually feel the difference in temperature going around a corner into the shadow, because you sit up so much higher the wind hits all over.

[-] The pull of the bike seems a lot stronger, I think thats due to the upright seating position. It's a lot easier to be pushed backwards when your sitting straight up.

[-] The stock seat SUCKS. When sitting up anyway. I actually slid myslef backwards onto the little hump between the main and passenger seats. That was ok. With the clubman bars my weight sits differently and is more comfortable.

[-] Scraping the pegs is a little scary when you sit up this far. It's easier to lean, just scarier.


It's nice sitting up for longer cruises, but I'm going to go pick up a pair of those superbike bars (the 2.5" rise). The stock bars just don't cut it.

On another note, I called X-Roads for a pair of rearsets, but they're backordered for 2-3 weeks. Hmph.

Oh well, it's a nice day (75 F) and I'm goin riding!
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dan
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Fssnoc2501
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dan & Tony,

Got my head back from Axtell & Nallin. Measured the length from valve seat to intake opening on head which is approx. 2.5". This makes the intake setup I'm currently running an overall length of 12.32". Still need to get it dyno'd to see what the true optimum will be with my new cams, valves and flow work.

Ray
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Strat81
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Update:
Just to fill ya'll in on my broken Blast: The carburetor came loose from the intake! The tech pushed the carb and tightened one screw and it fired right up. Sonofagun.... :) Thanks to all who helped!
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Xgecko
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that carb problem is a weak link in my opinion I spent some time looking at a sportsters carb/manifold jucture and it is much stouter in its connection. the carb actually sorta fits into the manifold with the gasket sealing the whole works together instead of the blasts system where the gasket is the link between the two. Talking to my service guys they've replace a few gaskets already and thats on Blasts with the standard airbox. I know mine started it's crack before I switched intakes I can see that in the age and it is cracked in a different direction. The stutter that I felt in second is most definatly from that as that was when I held the bike the most with my legs putting pressure on the airbox and therefor the carb/intake/gasket. Ah well it's not like the factory is gonna do anything about is. I've been looking at heating/furnace gaskets that have metal re-enforcemnets as a viable replacement for the OEM Gasket but alas I can do nothing with that until the new Carb arrives.
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Rd350
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well looks like Buell has the new XB9S on the website. But for us that like the Blast we get a new color. Purple is dropped and a new orange red color. The price goes up $200.00 and nothing new on it. No new foot pegs, better seat, or tac. Looks like we got the short end of the shaft...

I like the new bike but will keep the blast.
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O2ride
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ggrrr... second go round on that 'blast'ed rocker box gasket leak scenario with my '01 at just over 8K miles .. they (service writer) tell me that now that I have the new 1-piece metal gasket in there, shouldn't have the problem anymore. Can I believe him???!!

O', they also recommended replacing both tires soon. This will be No. 3 on the rear. I ride the bike and have fun but, honest, do not ride it all that hard. Anybody else going thru rear tires like this? Recommendations on a different tire from the one that appears to be making the shop some big $$$$

Btw, haven't logged on for awhile.. like the new set-up here.
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Xgecko
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yup the metal gasket is new and improved...it should be better.
I have used both Pireli's and I am presently using Avon's. Pireli's are Cheap...probably 2/3's the cost of the OEM Dunlops. They wear well, heatup well and seem to my humble opinion to be better suited to leaning the blast over. Avon's are roughly the same cost as the OEM tires but they are much better suited to commutting though they do take a bit longer to heatup than either the Dunlops or the Pirelis
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O2ride
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, you would recommend Avon for basic commuting and Pirelli for, well, getting out and having fun, stock if you like supporting your local dealer.. and, uh, heat up? (Sorry, not quite as technically savvy as all you guys here....) what is that benefit?

Thanks for the encouraging words on the new gasket!
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Dansherman
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can't comment on the Avon's, but the Pirellis are way fun. They make you feel a lot more confident in the twisties.

Heat up is pretty simple. Cold tires don't grab the road as well, so the faster a tire heats up (from use), the sooner you can use it to it's full potential. This is quite important to racers, but it applies to anyone riding.

I say get the Pirelli's (from your dealer ), but it depends on your riding. Seriously, when are you not having fun on the bike?

--
dan
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Rd350
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From what I have noticed between the pirelli and the dunlop is the pirelli's have a higher profile on the front tire. (Side wall) THe pirelli's front have a more rounder profile. This make the bike turn in quicker than the dunlops and helps lean the bike over more. It reminds me of going from a 120/60ZR17 to a 120/70ZR17. The rear is a little wider than the dunlop. I think the pirelli's are a much better tire than the dunlops. From price point, traction, wear, and looks...
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Darthane
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake,

Heh...well, maybe 60 RWHP is a bit overkill, but a guy can dream, right? Personally I'll be very happy with 50 and ecstatic to pull 55 out of it. I think the Blast would make an awesome little fun race bike with 50-55 RWHP and would absolutely kick @$$ at BattleTrax.

And no, under no circumstances will I ever put nitrous on any of my bikes.

Bryan
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Xgecko
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Beverly, Having had both I like the Avons better but as I stated it does take longer to come up to temp. I've had the rear tire slide a bit when I've just hopped on and gone out to hooligan ride However I trailbrake a bunch so I'm probably asking a lot from a cold tire Once it's warm it sticks as well if not better than the Pireli's (some of that may be that I'm getting better). Like the Pireli's the rear is thicker and wider than the Dunlop's. The Front though a different tread pattern is about the same as the Pireli and much nicer that the Dunlops. My dealer installed the Pireli's for about $100 and $128 for the Avons
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Circlip
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been lurking about for about a month now trying to get a feel for the Blast. As an official "Old Fart" biker, I wasn't sure if the Blast made any sense, but as a FSSNOC'er it sounds great. About 1-1/2 years ago I sold my MZ Skorpion and bought a Ducati 750 Monster (I like the Ducati dealer quite a bit). The Ducati is a great bike, but I keep longing for a single again. The Blast sounds like a flawed motorcycle which inspires a lot of passion. Sort of reminds me of my beloved Moto Morinis (but that's another story). Buell markets it as a beginner's bike. Could a 47 year old who has ridden since he was 14 live with a Blast? The MZ developed about 40 hp at the rear wheel, which was fine for me. I know the Blast which is an air-cooled 500 vs a water-cooled 650 develops less. Any comments on hp?

Thanks
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Sarodude
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I yanked the Blast's head and saw what I expected - leaking intake valve guide seal. Carbon on piston and combustion chamber.

I also started to take a look at the interface between the intake manifold (uh, unifold? monofold? maybe header?) and see some serious room for improvement.

Bottom line: Head is off... what should I do (head & intake) for the 'free' horsepower for a guy who wasn't planning anything other than a simple valve seal replacement? I'm down for cleaning up castings, filling areas with epoxy, etc. In terms of some more interesting machining, I don't think this is the time... Unless...

Input please!
-Saro
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Strat81
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, my 2001 Blast broke down on me again. That's twice in the past week. (waits for laughter to die down.)

Anyway, I put a Dynojet Kit, K&N Filter, and White Brothers E-Series pipe on about 3 weeks ago. Last week, the bike started popping and spitting like crazy and stalled out. The bike wouldn't start for sh*t. I pushed it home about a half mile. The mechanic at the dealership tightened down the coupler that holds the carburetor to the intake manifold. This is essentially a rubber gasket with two hose clamps. Anyway, the bike started right up and seemed to run ok.

Today on my way to work, after running for about 20 minutes, the bike began to buck a little bit, almost like it was running out of gas. There was plenty of gas in the tank and the petcock was set to ON. I get to work ok and park it for the day. At the end of the day, it starts up no problem and I set off for home. I make a brief detour to see a friend. The bike ran fine for 20-25 minutes. I shut it down, go inside to chat for about 15-20 minutes and go out to start it up. It takes a little bit of time, but after twisting the throttle and pressing the starter, she turns over and starts. I take off out of the parking lot and less than a 1/4 mile from where I
left, she dies on me. I start it up again after fussing a bit and again it dies down the block.

Lucky for me, two friends came to the rescue and we got the bike towed to the dealership. One of them has some experience with Buells and says it sounds like the ignition module is fried. The bike seems like it's running out of gas, but only after the bike is warmed up, so he says maybe the
ignition module is overheating.

What do ya'll think? What else might it be? Any help is appreciated. (Unless that help is 'Buy a Honda') Thanks in advance!
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Xgecko
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 02:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

this sounds like the gasket that they tightend the coupler on may be cracked that sounds a lot like the way my bike ran
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Dansherman
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1844213821

--
dan
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Darthane - think 720 square eng. - the 44mag. is the ticket I'm waiting on and have been planning around - there is the 65 to 70 hp your looking for - go Brian! Blasting on the dark side!EZ
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

all . . . i'm sure this has been covered, but my cursory search failed to uncover any word . . . is there a tach I can mount on my wife's Blast? havvn't been able to find one . . .. thanks
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bomber,
I think you'll have to go aftermarket and tie it into the bike somehow. A good performance shop that knows what they're doing, along with a little guidance to get past the potentially less-informed front desk people, should be able to set you up if you don't want to do it yourself.
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Prof_Stack
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CirClip - You sound a bit like me. Check out http://www.dlux.net/~nhardy/Buell_Blast/buellblast.htm for my html thoughts (from another FSSNOC'er). The Blast is modestly powered but a heck of a lot of fun.

Strat81 - Thanks for the tip on the carb clamps. I'm planning a four day trip on the Blast and last night I went over the bike to make sure the connections are tight. Besides the carb clamps I found that the belt guard star (torx) heads needed tightening as well as the 8 hex heads on top of the gas tank.

Your mods sound like what I want to eventually do. Good luck on the fix and please post your findings. Thanks!
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