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Davidhd
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Guys:

My Ulysses XT is very damaged and fists and I think it's time to get new ones. Are heated.

Do I have to buy the part number original new Buell? Or I can buy another and put them?

The originals are expensive.

Thanks in advance.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could switch to cartridge heaters. They are all I have ever used, and I originally chose them for durability... You don't move a wire every time you turn the throttle, they just stay in the bars. I suspect they take a while longer to come up to temp though (as they have to heat the whole bar).

I'm working on and off on a thermostat controller for them... I have the next gen designed but haven't built the new prototype yet, nor tweaked the software for new feature (actually old features that I am bringing back). But you can just wire them up with a switch.

Dennis Kirk sells them, search for "Polly Heaters". If you are using a thermostat or controller you can get the cheap two wire (one setting) "snowmobile" version. If you want to switch off / low / high you want the 3 wire "motorcycle version".

$20 or $30 per pair...
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Milo_h
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm using the "Polly" heaters on my 06 ULY.
They are toasty.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'm using Polaris ones for snowmobile they work great.
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Davidhd
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

POLLY??? Do you have a pic?
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Davidhd
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Pontlee77. How are you?

I think the POLARIS will be fine, but I want to use the original interruptor for connect.

V's
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



You can buy them direct from pollyheaters.com, or from amazon, or dennis kirk, or ebay, etc...
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Dtaylor
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been living with a dead high temp element on the RH grip for some time. Rather than replace the grips, or go with Oxford HotGrips (had them on my previous bike -- quite nice, btw), I'll be taking Reepicheep's advice and trying out the Polly inserts.

I ordered the Polly PH200 (dual element high-low) inserts off of Amazon. ~$25 shipped.

I intend to use the Buell heated grip switch to control them. I have the connectors from American Sports Bike:

http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/17301-Conn.html

I won't be tackling any of this for awhile, but when I do, I'll try to take pictures to share.

(Message edited by dtaylor on January 18, 2013)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wondered if those factory grip heaters would be reliable, and suspected they wouldn't be...
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Garrcano
Posted on Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 06:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As I saw on mine, they are from Magura. I don't think it's an 'only Buell' thing.

Maybe they would be made also for BMW ??????
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ordered the Buell switchgear (from Al) and wired my wrap on heated grip elements through those and a distribution block - wired via a relay a couple years ago. I imagine splicing in new elements or the Poly heaters under new grips would be pretty simple.

Poly are supposed to be very warm, the self adhesive elements work well enough for me, but I'll add hand guard extension from Palmer eventually for the cold weather riding in the early Spring.

(Message edited by littlebuggles on January 19, 2013)
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Davidhd
Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 05:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thaks a lot to everybody.

With all this information should be enough this problem. I think I'll have to ask the Poly as they go. Also I will keep you informed of progress.

V's
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

David, send me an email if you have any trouble getting them there in Spain, and I'll help how I can.

Bill at KilgallonFamily dot com
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2013 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bill -
The Buell heaters have been perfect for me.
2009 Uly came with them, my 08 1125R got them the first day in December 2007.
I use them at some point almost every ride, no issues.
30k miles on the Uly, 28+k miles on Loretta.

I made my own handguard extensions.
Cost me nothing and took less than an hour to fab and mount.





Zack
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Arcticktm
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2013 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So 1 person has a grip fail and it is "I wondered if those factory grip heaters would be reliable, and suspected they wouldn't be..."?
Are there a bunch more failures reported or something?

If you do go the stick on under-grip route (vs. the Buell molded in or the Polly's), then I would highly recommend spending a few bucks more for the Hi/Lo kind that do NOT need an in line resistor. The resistors can be a pain to find a good place for, and they get very hot in operation.
I had to replace one of my stick on heaters (due to replacing the bars after a crash). I bought the resistor kind by accident. Work OK, but don't like having that resistor under the flyscreen.
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Buellmeister57
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2013 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put a set of the Polly heaters on my wifes bike 3 years ago and she loves them. Zero problems, cheap. They don't heat up as quick as my factory Uly grips.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2013 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Grip heaters (long before Buell started putting them on bikes) were notorious for failing on motorcycles.

First, grips wear out. A good grippy rubber will wear out after a couple of seasons of riding. So heat or not, grips wear out. Buell solved this by making the grips hard plastic, which does prevent wearing out, but at the cost of not having grippy grips. Which would make them a non starter for me, I like soft grippy grips (Al sells a really nice set).

Secondly, every time you crack the throttle, you flex the wire going to the heater. So over times it fails, it just gets too much flex. The wire for a heater has to be a decent gauge as well, which aggravates the problem.

A buddy at work has heated grips on his blackbird, and they fail pretty much every 18 months.

Sounds like Buell did better. We don't hear much about them failing (which has suprised be based on what I have seen and heard with other brands).
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can you use poly heaters with Bar Ends?
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