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Johnboy777
| | Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 08:24 am: | 
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Why get bearings from Buell that are most likely sourced based on a certain
price point? So I bought SKF (pricey, yup) after doing my homework on
the matter, and talking with lots of bearing folks.
And, it's not the place where they are manufactured - but the company doing the manufacturing.
Also, according to and article in Fuell, Mag. the Uly susp. set up puts 25% more stress on the rear assembly.
So pre '10's may have more than one culprit at work here.
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Tginnh
| | Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 08:25 am: |
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Thank you! |
Ourdee
| | Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 08:37 am: |
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My bearings went out at just under 5,000 miles. They were the red seals. I have over 2500 on the black seal bearings now. Hal's also replaced the spacer at the same time. I lost the left and right set at the same time just a couple of miles from the factory. I'll probably get the 2010 wheel after the warranty expires. I hope this set lasts.
,R.D. |
Thetable
| | Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 09:48 am: |
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My black sealed bearings failed after 10,873 miles.
I'm really questioning myself on the '10 wheel. My cheap side really doesn't want to pay for it, but my riding side says, "you end up too far from home on a regular basis to deal with a failure." At my current rate of failure, I have another 4000 miles to make up my mind. |
Electraglider_1997
| | Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 10:08 am: |
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My orange sealed bearings have 22,000 miles on them. I grease them once per season and then coat the seal's outside with Permatex anti-seize. When I add the grease the old grease always looks black but they keep on working just fine. The belt is original and stretched out so that it only is snugged up when I've torqued down the axle to spec. That might be the reason I haven't experienced the bearing problems others have had. |
F_skinner
| | Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 09:20 pm: |
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I just checked the bearings and they are fine. The clicking noise I am hearing is from the drive pully on the pully shaft. It sounds like the needle bearings went south.
I am taking it to the shop tomorrow. I am hoping the cases do not have to be split.
Damn it! |
Bikesquatch
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 05:19 pm: |
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Got the bike back yesterday, black seal on the bearing. One question, when the bearing went it happened at around 70 mph and the belt got a bit chewed up on the guard. That wasn't replaced, is that normal? I am concerned that all the threads that are showing on the belt are a sign that it is the next thing to fail. What do you guys think? |
Edgydrifter
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 06:02 pm: |
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I had the new black seal bearings installed with my last tire change. Upon inspection, the original orange bearings looked fine (and keep in mind that this bike is almost always outside and ridden in any and all weather that doesn't leave ice on the road). So the swap probably wasn't necessary for me, but heck, the wheel was already off. Better safe than sorry. |
Dirt
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 07:05 pm: |
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Bikesquatch, I'm currently on my fourth set of rear bearings. I'm also on my fourth belt. In each instance the belt failed shortly after the bearings did. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not, but if I were you I would have a spare belt handy. |
Bikesquatch
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 02:10 am: |
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Hmm, since this is all warranty work shouldn't the belt also be covered by warranty? |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 09:02 am: |
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Jut called HCHD and no bearings in stock so I will go with the new wheel.
Sorry you're having problems Frank. I see you've determined it isn't the wheel bearings, but in case anyone is reading this thread here is some info.
The rear wheel bearings are 6006 size, and the complete designation is 6006 2rs c3. The 6006 is the size, the 2rs means double sealed, and the c3 means "greater than normal clearance." If you need bearings and your dealer doesn't have any in stock, any 6006 bearing will fit. I've gotten them at industrial supply houses. Autoparts stores may carry them (would be nice to find a car that used.) I hear that they are used on ATVs as well (again, it would be nice to know on what.) |
Johnboy777
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 09:14 am: |
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""I hear that they are used on ATVs as well (again, it would be nice to know on what.)""
There is a bearing thread here, somewhere, that states which ATVs use this bearing...IIRC, there are a lot.
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Johnboy777
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 09:17 am: |
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Here it is (bearing thread--ATVs using 6006)...thanks, Hughlysses :
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/442488.html?1251983886
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F_skinner
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 09:44 am: |
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Jlnance, not the wheel bearings but I will give you a hint. I think the ride up Pikes Peak we did had something to do with it.
The bike is done and I pick it up tomorrow. The inner cover around the belt area was out of shape or bent maybe from a rock. I will know more when I pick it up. |
Xbimmer
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 11:07 am: |
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Hmm, since this is all warranty work shouldn't the belt also be covered by warranty?
IMO the dealer should have replaced it, but they apparently took the position that it wasn't "broken" so they didn't have to cover it. Take it up with them and if necessary call Buell CS.
If you need bearings and your dealer doesn't have any in stock, any 6006 bearing will fit. I've gotten them at industrial supply houses. Autoparts stores may carry them
I know NAPA sells and sometimes stocks 6006/6005 bearings, not cheap, but available and SKF last time I saw one. They can look them up by bearing size. |
Electraglider_1997
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 12:08 pm: |
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I've used these guys for bearings. ourhttp://www.precisionind.com/?mod=products&sec=pt |
Jlnance
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 02:17 pm: |
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I think the ride up Pikes Peak we did had something to do with it.
To quote from Schreck, "That is a sacrifice I am willing to make."
Seriously though, sorry it broke. I think my AFV has almost recovered from that trip. |
Bikesquatch
| | Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 12:44 am: |
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FML. That is all there is to it, left stranded again, 7800 miles on the bike and the belt broke. I am aware that it is a wear item but I have no doubt in my mind that it is directly related to the rear wheel bearing failure I had, and the one before that. The belt had serious threads showing and I was skeptical about even driving but I had just bought my wife a new bike and she is anxious to ride. I assumed that the professionals at the dealer noticed I had paid extra for the extended warranty to cover issues like this and had exercised their judgement on the longevity of my belt, given its current state. I am sick and tired of being left on the side of the road. I honestly shouldn't have to worry about the belt having less than 8k miles. This bike truly does sing to me but the song isn't so sweet anymore, I need reliability above everything else. Alright end rant.
I really do believe that the belt should have been replaced though, do I have a leg to stand on here? Dealer doesn't open until Tuesday, and they are the only Buell dealer I know of here in AK. Should give me time to calm down. |
Dirt
| | Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 05:20 am: |
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The belt is covered as long as the guard has not been removed. Should be replaced under warranty with no questions asked. Hopefully your dealer will have a new belt in stock. Unfortunately, my experience has shown this is never the case. Prepare yourself for a week of downtime. |
Bikesquatch
| | Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 12:06 pm: |
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Bike fixed, belt warrantied. Bummer that I was without my bike for another week but it's fixed now and we are having great weather for October in AK. Can't wait to put some more miles on! Fingers crossed that they will be trouble free. Thanks for all the responses, this site is a wealth of information. |
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