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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I had the spare $$$, I would trade my 06 for the XT in a heart beat!
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Rainman
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As a guy who can barely reach a toe down on the standard Uly but loved the Ss with the exception of no luggage and windshield, I think they've nailed what I want. I'm not an off-roader although I've taken the Blast on some hairy Blue Ridge Mountain driveways and gotten sideways in fresh gravel poured into and over a rutted route. I just want a touring Buell that I can slam around town and roll on for 12 hours and I think this is it.

Now I just got to convince the kids to quit college so I can buy it soon.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 05:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK - height issues I can understand.

The height and the suspension and the nakedness are the things I covet greatly about my Uly. It tears (as in ripping) me up to see them taken away nooooooooooooooooo!

But sometimes I forget I'm the amateur Hercules act. No more japes.
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Mainstreamer
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave, I hear ya on the attributes of the Uly. Damn that's some beautiful country you have down there! Beam me down Dave.

Anyone renting out Uly's down there???

How about we swap bikes for a month or so? Uly, FJR, probably more to your liking then the Duc... you decide mate.
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Rainman
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I understand why the suspension is a benefit on the Uly. I've ridden a local dealer's KTM Adventure 950 around town and love it. The difference may be the width of the seat: I can still put the ball of my foot down when I stop where the Uly gives me only my toe. The Uly's seat, however felt great when I was riding it, but stopping even on flat surfaces was mucho exciting.

I like the KTM, but the Blast -- and this website and the factory guys who seem to respond to people -- has convinced me I want to stay with Buell.

The local KTM dealer, on the other hand, has offered to work on my Buell if I provide the factory manual for them and regular high brow coffee.

Some B dealers could learn a lot from these folks' customer service.
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Khelton
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My fear is that Buell will take the Uly in the same direction that Triumph took the Tiger. That is what the short Uly appears to be , another streetbike, just like the Tiger is just another streetbike. Our little niche is small enough with few options out there. I just hope Buell doesn't mainstream the Uly in an attempt to get into a larger market and leaving us out in the cold .
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Jlnance
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Khelton - I don't think you have to worry about that.

People have been asking for a Buell sport tourer for a long time. The Uly filled that niche for some people, but not all. For the one's it didn't the complaint was the Uly was too tall and had no wind protection. This is Buell's answer to those criticisms.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Mainstreamer - no Uly rentals - BMW Adv bikes abound though.
Not a bad for thrashing the daylight out of.

It's a good idea on the swapsies - some sort of 'time share' for bikers would be a good thing. But my next trip plans to be to the South Island.

That's even more spectacular than where I am on the North.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>If the statement is true: "Sport Touring bikes don't sell very well."

What is the reasoning? Would BMW say the same thing? <<

New vehicle registrations have BMW 8th here.
Jap big 4, then Triumph then Harley then KTM- last time I looked.

BMW is undergoing a 'massive global repositioning' is what BMW says.

They are making sports bikes and motards and HP2s.
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Khelton
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Re BMW sales


"..They are making sports bikes and motards and HP2s..."

The new single cylinder X bikes aren't selling well in the US...recently got a $2,000 price cut...
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Florida_lime
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Danger Dave said...But my next trip plans to be to the South Island.

That's even more spectacular than where I am on the North.

Oh great, even more spectacular photos to drool over !

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ours will be here in two weeks, remember that typo I asked about back in December ?!? We ordered one on a hunch, Looks like that may have got us to the power curve that we missed with the 1125R.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ps anybody know where the link went for the original thread where they said it was a typo ? I cant seem to locate it....
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Naustin
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As much as they touted the "Quiet Zone" on the Eleven, and went on and on about how important still air is to rider comfort and fatigue - How could they leave that critical ingredient out of the XT package??
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can ride my Uly about 750 miles in a day; and that's with the stock short windshield. I've done it several times; the last was from Flint, MI home to central Massachusetts coming back from Homecoming last July.
The XT has a taller windscreen. Maybe it offers better wind protection for an upright rider than the Firebolt fairing would.
In any event, I'm waiting until my Dealer gets one in, and if it feels as good as I think it will, then we'll have to discuss what kind of deal we can arrive at.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>The new single cylinder X bikes aren't selling well in the US...recently got a $2,000 price cut...<<

Because they aren't that nice.

Mid power motard style bike that has ABS you can't turn off.

Bored the stuntman and myself somewhat.

Megamoto is my 2nd favourite bike now however.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>> and went on and on about how important still air is to rider comfort and fatigue<<

I find the most tiring thing on a motorcycle fitted with a large screen is the noise and buffeting from the large sceen.
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Kvdog
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really hope they did something about the HB case latch issue.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They now come with a two piece guarantee.

If it breaks you can keep both pieces.
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Kvdog
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bungee cords now standard equipment.
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Dynasport
Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, as someone who has been considering a Uly as my next bike I have mixed feelings on the new XT. First, I really welcome the shorter height. I am 5'10" and am on the balls of my feet on a Uly. I hope I can have more of a flat footed stance on the XT. I sat on a Duc MS this weekend, and I have to say I felt more secure on that bike. The one I was looking at was a used S model with the Ohlins shocks. It also had aftermarket pipes that sounded great and had the Duc side and top cases added. For a bit of perspective, it was an 04 1000 model and with 11,000 miles. The dealership still wanted $13,000 for it.

Anyway, back to the XT. I also like the front fender and the wheels. I don't expect to take my bike off road any more than maybe a dirt or gravel road on a rare occasion, so I don't need great off-road capabilities.

Now for my concerns. I have some reservations about the bags. I have read too many posts about them having a fragile latching mechanism. I also would like a detachable method that does not leave behind the racks. The touring screen may be good for me, or may not, so I don't know about that yet. Besides, the screen doesn't cost that much so it is not really a big deal. Which brings me to the cost. I think Buell is charging too much for this bike. The only real addition are the bags. Everything else is really just a substitution. Besides, I might rather have different bags on the bike anyway. So, in the end I am still not sure what I will end up doing. Thank goodness I am not in a hurry.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldn't be concerned about the bags. I've had mine full many times and use the side ones full time and I haven't had any problem with mine!

I even hit a concrete post with the side bag at a gas station one night and it just bounced right off with only a scuff! I thought for sure it was going to have a big hole in it after hitting that post the way I did!
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Ulywife
Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 06:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really hope they did something about the HB case latch issue.

From our Storm Fronts:

new beefy sturdy version is available,,,I've had one for 2 weeks.

Several that have gotten new latches claim that they are better than the original latches.
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Michael1
Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm still on my original 06 latches... Maybe I'm doing something wrong???

I load mine up to the gills as well. But I always make sure I close the bags and then latch them. Never closing the bags with the latches. And I also use the unsightly yellow bungee cord as my back up just incase they do break.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cityxslicker: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/296284.html?1186246321

Cyclonedon hit it on the head

quote:

a Ulysses factory equipped with a tall windshield and all the bags complete! Maybe with some fairing and a lighting front fender?

that's just my guess.


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Supertoon
Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was one of the first to find the Uly too high, however, compare the amount of time you have your feet on the ground compared to the amount of time on the pegs and I will take a better seat to peg relation any day. Sat on a new R1200R and was reminded how uncomfortable having your knees under your chin was.(slight exaggeration) As soon as I slap a "Madstad" bracket on my 06 I think I will have the best sport-touring bike I have ever owned!
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Xbimmer
Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So is the shield on the XT different from the Buell Tall Shield on the Buell website and the one on the table next to me?

All the pics I see show the XT shield without the pronounced recurved lip at the top edge, more like a taller stock Uly shield.

Maybe Buell realized the "lipped" Tall Shield wasn't that good after all? Mine is really bad regarding turbulence.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that the Buell tall screen was revised to eliminate the lip somewhere along the line.

I've got a Zero gravity screen, so I could be wrong.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the new XB12XT does look like they have eliminated the lip on the tall windshield. I have the tall windshield on my 06 with the lip, which really doesn't bother me but I do think the Zero Gravity dark tinted shield looks better on the Uly.

I have a Cee Baileys 16" shield that I put on for winter riding and that shield really give me a headache when riding because all the wind hits me on the top of my helmet when riding. It always comes off early spring and the tall shield replaces it.
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Snowscum
Posted on Friday, January 25, 2008 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cyclonedon: I have the same issue with the Cee Baileys. Would like to find one that doesn't have that effect. Maybe 3-4" shorter.
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