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Buelldyno_guy
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 11:49 pm: | 
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I have both a "ULY" and a motor home and I wanted one I could use for both. Looking on-line I found the Quest and the Quest 2 the Q was cheaper, but the Q2 was much more powerful. I could get the Q2 with bar mount and power cord, plus could add to the same purchase the dash mount and remote antenna all for approx. $600 + shipping, but with no sales tax.
I am also a LOGO type of guy and wanted to wait to see what the Buell unit would be like. I was disappointed to see that they went with the Quest and not the Quest 2. I have not made up my mind yet, but I really like the Q 2 advantages. |
Medic
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 11:58 pm: |
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Buelldyno_guy, I use mine on the 12X and in my car. I have a RAM mount with the Garmin motorcycle mount for the Uly, and the windshield suction cup mount in the car. I just move the unit from bracket to bracket. |
Buelldyno_guy
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 12:05 am: |
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Medic, I get employee discounts and have Buell Everything, but even at my cost I can't see paying that much more for a Quest with the Buell Dealers loaded in when I can buy a Q2 for just about the same money. ... Terry |
Lowflyer
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 12:06 am: |
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Buelldyno,
It might be worth it to check out the 2610. The remote control is awesome for the RV. That deal Stevenknapp found is unbeatable. |
Doon
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 12:15 am: |
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Well, I am aiming to put it onto an XB12S, no Uly for me, and I want to move it easily between bikes. I did some quick math and for what I want it for it looks like a Quest will work out for me. I like the smaller size and the battery power. Still debating on the Quest2. Have to see how bad I make out when I do my taxes this weekend. |
Medic
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 12:18 am: |
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Buelldyno,
I got my Quest 2 for $569 including shipping from a computer store in NY. After buying the Garmin motorcycle mount on Ebay and a RAM setup, I had spent a total of $673. |
Jackbequick
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 08:53 am: |
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The models (like the 2610) that use removable media for map storage and do not have hard drives are the best choice for long distance use in a high vibration environment. With the Quest, you'd have to go to a computer with the MapSource detail map software installed everytime you drove off your map.
Doon - the 118mb should store the area you want to drive pretty easily. Then you got to go back home and reload. :><IMG SRC=http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/winker.gif ALT=;)>
The details that are on the base map built into the unit includes all major roads down to (generally speaking) the numbered state routes. So without anything else loaded, you can get cross country easy.
It is when you want to start looking for street addresses and specific POIs that you really need the detail maps. Some Garmins can load POIs from other sources, not sure if the Quest will do that.
If I wanted a GPS for a "mega trip" and maximum detail for all of it I would want one with removable media. And I would travel with two or three SD (or CF, or whatever) cards that had detail map regions for the entire U.S. or area I wanted to travel.
I'm using Tom Tom 5 Navigator software now on a PDA (lays in the clear tank mounted map case). That has good mapping data and it is the same software as on the Rider.
I think the Tom Tom Rider will prove to be a good unit for use on bikes. It lists at $1,199 (street/eBay prices are down around $1,050-1,100) but it looks to be a little more rugged, waterproof, and "feature rich" (SD card memory, Bluetooth headset, internal (5 hour) battery, etc.), than some of the others. Take the tour at that link, it give a good overview of the mount and how to use it.
I wouldn't look for a GPS with XM built in. To add audio inputs to my riding environment (satellite radio, players, cell phones, intercomms, etc.) I would buy one of the good intercom units (like AutoCom) that will handle multiple inputs and then I'd be able to add and remove bells and whistles at will without being married to the GPS makers conception.
Jack
(Message edited by jackbequick on February 03, 2006) |
Royintulsa
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 09:49 am: |
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Has anyone tried the Tom Tom rider? |
Stevenknapp
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 01:10 pm: |
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Jack, the reason for the 3x6 having the XM built in is they download weather data from XM. So you can be riding along, and see where the rain is and whatnot.
Also I'm not sure about the TomTom units, but the Quest2 or a 2GB card in the 2610 can store detailed map info for the entire USA. No need for extra cards and whantot.
I've often had options for routes home, and knowing where the storms are would be helpful.
My fav place for mounting hardware is www.cyclegadgets.com They offer great service and suggestions. As well their return policy can't be beat. Very helpful folks. But their prices on the GPS units themselves are a bit high. |
Medic
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 01:13 pm: |
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Cyclegadgets is where I got my RAM mount. Super fast shipping. |
Doon
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 02:24 pm: |
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In looking at the Mounts. Should I just get the standard RAM-BAR, or do you think It would be possible to mount it to the existing bolt where my mirrors where and use something like the RAM-9M and a short arm? |
India
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 02:43 pm: |
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I bought Tom Tom Rider. It is brilliant. No buttons to press it is all touch screen. The European mapping is spot on and I've never used any sat nav that re-routes as fast. The only problem is that the earpiece that fits in the helmet is a bit bulky. I've used the blue tooth connection to my phone but at anything over 30mph I can't hear so a bit of a waste of time. |
Doon
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 02:51 pm: |
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actually I would probably have to use the RAM-11M since our Mirrors use 10MM Bolts. right? |
Jackbequick
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 04:17 pm: |
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Steven - Right! I had forgotten about the data weather broadcasts on the XM receivers integrated into GPSRs. The subscription fees on the weather service runs like $30 to $100 a month doesn't it? That kind of makes me lose interest a little.
I do listen to the weather on XM voice channels occasionally. I'm kind of a seat of the pants guy for weather, if it looks bad enough I stay home. Otherwise I suit up and live with it.
And the North American map data for Tom Tom 5 will fit on a 2GB card. The program files are all on the SD card too so if you have to use more than one card they both need to have the program files but that does not take up much space.
Jack
(Message edited by jackbequick on February 03, 2006) |
Jackbequick
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 04:38 pm: |
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India - Thanks for the feedback on the Rider, had not heard any first hand reports from actual users yet.
So the screen brightness in day light is okay? And the weatherproofing seems good?
I think there are some helmets, maybe in conjunction with a neck/chin wind muffler that will quiet things down enough for the audio to work better. Someone here mentioned being able to use a cell phone as speed but I think it was a tribute to a combination of several factors like a helmet, wind barrier, and one of the communications systems.
I don't use and really can live without the audio prompts. The GPS gets included in glancing at the speedo/tach and I anticipate turns. I never really need a wake up call from the GPS.
You're right about the re-routing thing being fast, its the same on TT 5 on a PDA. It is fun too. I sometimes set a destination, elect local roads only to keep it from picking interstates, and then just turn off on any road that look interesting. No matter what I do it keeps rebuilding the route and prompting me to the roads that will get me to the destination.
Jack |
India
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 05:30 pm: |
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Jack
The screen brightness on the Rider is fine although I've only used the unit for a couple of months during the winter so no high summer sun but I don't think it will be a problem. So far as the weather proofing is concerned I'm pretty sure it is completely waterproof. It seems to rain every time I ride at the moment. The good thing is there being no buttons to press there is nowhere for the water to get in. |
Stevenknapp
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 08:21 pm: |
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One not so glowing review of the TomTom...
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/tomtom-rider/
It implies that the TomTom does not save track logs? If not, that's a big bummer for me. |
Lowflyer
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 09:01 pm: |
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Tom Tom has a brilliant marketing scheme.  |
Jackbequick
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 10:26 pm: |
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"..TomTom does not save track logs?..."
Nope, and that's pretty stupid when you get right down to it. Not even a trail so that you can look back at where you've been in your current session.
I'm your archtypical record keeper on trips and that was one of the great joys when I started using a GPS about 10 years ago. All that lovely data to save on the laptop and look at later...
I finally convinced myself that as little use as I ever made of it, I can live without it. But I'm still having withdrawal symptoms.
But that review! Wow, I'm glad I saw that. I was not going to buy a Rider anytime soon but I'm way less interested in them now than I was. Thanks for finding that Steven. The TT5 Navigator software only cost about $150 and I already had the PDA and GPS receiver for that. So I'm happy with that for now.
Jack |
Csg_inc
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 01:15 am: |
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Not to steal this thread but you also need to check with your insurance company about how they view these units in a crash. My Uly crashed with my BMW Motorrad 2 on board using a stock BMW cradle attached with a ram mount to the handlebar and powered by a cigar plug into the bike's accessory outlet. Well the insurance company viewed this setup as not permanently mounted to the bike so they only wanted to cover the ram mount and maybe at best the BMW cradle. Of course the ram mount was fine and the cradle suffered only minor damage when the unit separated from it. However, the $1400 Motorrad 2 was a total loss and was not viewed as "optional equipment" on the Buell so it was not covered. I now have a touratech locking mount on order for my new set up using a Quest 2 that will be hard wired thru the mount. This will qualify as permanently mounted and be viewed as an accessory. Well at least that is what they are currently saying. |
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