| Author | Message | ||
     99buellx1 |
 Part #: 92165-05Y Retial price: $699.95 | ||
| Court |
Killer deal !  | ||
| Skull |
If you look around for prices on the Garmin Quest you can find the same model (without the Buell logo) for about $350. Garmin makes a Quest and a Quest 2, the regular Quest is the same as the Buell or Harley model they sell at the HD store. I use the Quest on my Buell and Harley and I am very satisfied. All you need is a mount and if you look for a "RAM" mount they work great and you can move them from bike to bike. | ||
| Lowflyer |
I think the idea is that you can have a Garmin Quest that is customized for your bike. The Buell Quest looks like it belongs on the bike. This is important to some folks. | ||
| Stevenknapp |
How is it customized? Or looks like it belongs more so than any of the other mounts. Looks like it uses the right side handgrip pinch bolts and has some sort or bracket to hold it there. Smack some buell logos and costs 2x the street price? The mounting hardware might be pretty well sorted, but $350? Also, I'd prefer it not to be on the right side, that makes it much harder to operate while riding. I know that's another big discussion, should you be tinkering with it while riding. But I will say there are times that I find it safe to hit a quick "zoom in/out" and it's much easier to do so on the left side of the bike. I wonder if you can just get the mounting bracket hardware on it's own? | ||
| Reepicheep |
I wish they had gone all out and built some "twisty sniffer" features built into it. Pick a start point, a destination, and a max miles value, and it plots 3 routes for you, each with a total distance figure, and a "twisty index" for the two. I end up doing this all the time manually with my earthmate setup, dropping via after via and recalculating the route. I will spend a long time looking for all twisty roads between point A and B, and manually picking the best. It'd be a way cool feature to drive home the zen of the brand, but would probably require a fairly major rework of the Garmin OS. | ||
| Gowindward |
"It'd be a way cool feature to drive home the zen of the brand, but would probably require a fairly major rework of the Garmin OS." I bet it wouldn't be to far of a stretch. Kind of reverse logic of what they use now for shortest route or quickest time. There current SW will keep you off gravel roads and interstates, so have it route on two lane US highways and state roads only. Lowflyer, go put that bug in the right groups heads for us! | ||
| Skull |
Here is the page for the mount I use with mine. With this, you can mount it on either side of the bike. http://www.ram-mount.com/gps_mount/garmin/quest_mount.htm I bought mine at Best Buy as an open box for $289 and I spent less than $50 for the mounts. All in all saving around $370. If you want to spend the extra $350 or so for your GPS to say Buell on it, go ahead. Call me silly but for some reason I like saving money. The only difference between the two units are that the Buell model has all of the HD/Buell stores pre-programmed in the unit. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
The one you linked to dosnt have power to the unit. The Buell one does have that feature. And it is nice at night to have that power there. | ||
| Lowflyer |
Steve, Pricing is much more complicated than that. I could explain it to you, but I invested too much of my own $$ getting my own education to just give the knowledge away freely. Gowindward, I'm all over it!  | ||
| Loveall13 |
Hay daves, What is the bad web price on this unit. Jeremy | ||
| Skull |
99buellx1 I used two battery tender cables, one I attached to the battery and I leave it on the bike, the other I made a pigtail and put it on the unit. All you do is plug it in and your ready to roll. The cables are $5 a piece. | ||
| Chadhargis |
Steve....I'm right there with you. That's why my RAM mount is on the left. Much easier to hit the buttons on the GPS. Plus, the accessory plug is on that side. I've got two RAM mounts. The one above that uses a "U" bolt to clamp to the bar, and the one that uses longer screws to secure it to the pinch setup for the controls. I prefer the "U" bolt option as it seems to be better suited of the Ulysses. | ||
| Stevenknapp |
The one you linked to dosnt have power to the unit. The Buell one does have that feature. That does require wiring it into the bike. You can do the same thing. Or just plug into one of the two power outlets. Pricing is much more complicated than that. I could explain it to you, but I invested too much of my own $$ getting my own education to just give the knowledge away freely. Huh?? BTW, there are routing options to tell it what sort of roads you prefer. Nothing that gauges twistyness. But if you're in a good area, and set it up right, you can have a good ride. Nothing beats just looking at the map and using your noggin tho. | ||
| Stevenknapp |
Oh, another bonus of the RAM system, it's solid but it will give way if pushed. Say you've got your GPS mounted to your sled. And you, ahem, roll your sled. Say said roll makes the GPS the first thing to hit. 600lb sled, landing on your $800 GPS. GPS was fine, the RAM mount just moved as needed. Whoo! I can't speak for the Buell mount, but some of the aftermarket ones are pretty dang solid and the plastic GPS would give way long before the bling looking mount. | ||
| Lowflyer |
It's on the right because that is where the lawyers and the statistics say to mount it. Mine is mounted dead center, but you won't catch me touching the damn thing unless I have at least one foot on the ground. My advice to anyone is set it up before heading out or change it at a stop. If you have to touch it between stops, you either didn't set it up right at the last stop, or you are a woman. No offense to women, of course. If you are a woman, just pull over every time you change your mind about where you want to go.   Seriously, you will note among automotive units, certain routing features are disabled while the unit is moving. This is due to the rule of idiocraty that governs the litigious environment in which we all live. Steve, I was responding to "Smack some buell logos and costs 2x the street price?" Pricing is more complicated than that. (Message edited by lowflyer on January 23, 2006) | ||
| Alatriste |
Hi everybody, first of all thanks for your opinion and comments in the site; this helped me a lot to buy my Ulysses. By the way I think it is the only one in my city (Madrid , Spain)  . OK sorry for the bla bla. I am using a Tom Tom rider, yep it is more expensive but has nice features like touchable screen, on line traffic information, weather forecast and bluetooth compatible,( It is able to connect with your mobile). Saludos | ||
| Tripper |
Reepicheepy Bill; me suspects that by noon tomorrow your input will be in Garmin engineering. | ||
| Two_buells |
I have my Sirius Satellite Radio mounted on the left so..... I think I'm going to put the Buell GPS on the right......  | ||
| Pbransonii |
Hey, Two buells, You could have saved some serious coin by buying a generic scratch protector. | ||
| Pbransonii |
Hey guys, I gotta go with Skull on this one. One reason I like the Buell is that is relatively inexpensive to upgrade and fix. $699 for a $300 part sounds dangerously bimmerish to me. Don't get me wrong, I dig the Buell startup screen, if that is really what it is. But a $50 markup might be a little easier to swallow. Paul | ||
| Brad1445 |
Can we order Just the Buell Mounting system if we already have a Quest. | ||
| Two_buells |
"Hey, Two buells, You could have saved some serious coin by buying a generic scratch protector." Employee discount helps........  | ||
| Pbransonii |
That it does, brotha TB.  | ||
| Stevenknapp |
BMW does the same thing. They sell the 2610 Garmin for a higher price with the BMW name on it. I know pricing is more complex. But as a consumer it's important to know what's available and determine value on your own. A rebadged quest with some mounting hardware at nearly 2x the price of a standard quest isn't good value in my opinion.. others may disagree. Oh, and you can alter the startup screen on any quest with ximage from Garmin. http://www.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=545 | ||
| Lowflyer |
"$699 for a $300 part sounds dangerously bimmerish to me" I agree, but Quest and Buell Quest are two separate products aimed at two entirely different market segments. One market is incredibly larger and more diverse than the other. The price difference is in part representative of the limited number of these Buell Quests that are expected to be manufactured. It's like having Levi's stitch your name on the ass of 20 pairs of jeans. If you don't expect to pay considerably more for them than a standard pair of Levi's, you are fooling yourself. Some folks will like the Buell Quest like Bimmers like the BMW Streetpilot, and HD riders like the Roadtech HD Quest. It's all good. Hell, I like the Ford floor mats in my Ford truck. I dig the Buell Quest, but I'll be waiting for a more feature packed GPS. I want wireless comm, XM Weather and radio, GPS with Bluetooth voice activation, and cellular call routing all in one unit. | ||
| Stevenknapp |
It's like having Levi's stitch your name on the ass of 20 pairs of jeans. If you don't expect to pay considerably more for them than a standard pair of Levi's, you are fooling yourself. Good analogy. But in the end you're getting the same pants. One just has a cool name on it. As long as you understand that the big $$$ spent are just for that. Cool.  And FWIW, most of the people I know who bought the BMW system just didn't know better. They thought it was the best/only path. | ||
| Biker_bob |
Doesn't the BMW system have dead reckoning so it knows where it is even in a tunnel around tall buildings etc. When I was riding in NY city that would have been handy. | ||
| Lowflyer |
"But in the end you're getting the same pants" Nice pun.  My point was to explain the price difference; not justify the expense for the buyer. Value is for the individual to determine. I don't see the value in paying more for HD-brand oil, but they sell an awful lot of it anyway. It may be repackaged Mobile or Pennzoil inside, but the HD container adds value for some folks. It's all good. If you're shelling out Streetpilot cash and not doing homework, the cash is not real important is it? | ||
| Stevenknapp |
The BMW unit does not have the features of the 2620, including the dead reckoning features. If you're shelling out Streetpilot cash and not doing homework, the cash is not real important is it? True that. But knowledge is a big factor too. To use the oil analogy, I didn't know what the best oils were for the buell until I started reading here. I figured there must be other options other than SYN3, but didn't know about them. Someone who isn't GPS savy might be waiting for the buell system not knowing that the Quest is cheaper and there are many excelent aftermarket mounts.} I'm curious how the Quest has been holding up for H-D. I've heard stories that it's not the best in high vibration environments. |
