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Snail
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bummer.
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Leeroy_jenkins
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

RIP

Buell MX, would have been fun

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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Eh, I'm not into dirt bikes anyway. As far as I'm concerned, this is GREAT news. Buell isn't Honda, they don't have unlimited resources. Far better they use the resources they do have to concentrate on the one area they do better than ANYONE else: sporting STREET motorcycles.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was never on board with the Buell dirtbike anyway. I even got an admonishment from an Anony when I said as much.

Well Anony... you said I was going to be wrong for all time. Looks like I won't get that chance... just yet.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The question now is if the bike shows up badged as a CanAm under the auspices of Bombardier.
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Doon
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmm. In talking to Erik on Saturday, he was saying he was hoping to replace a couple of the Japanese Dirt Bikes that he had on his farm with an american one. At least I am pretty sure he said something along those lines. Came up when around the time talking about someone asked him to put te 1125R motor in the Uly.
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Soloyosh
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is truly a sad day. I had hoped that the dirt bike would be the wedge that Buell needed to get out of the Harley-Davidson dealerships. I am a Buell owner and a former Harley owner. The difference in treatment I received at the same dealership based on the bike I rode in was astonishing.

Here's hoping that Buell can find success in the future in spite of the Harley-Davidson dealerships apathy for the brand and its owners.
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Mcgiver
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or look at this from outside the box. This will shift worldwide attention while they are really developing something unique in dirtbikes. It's not like they have never said one thing and done another (we will never use watercooling). Brian
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Wile_ecoyote
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would be nice to know if any running bikes were actually made or were they just mock ups. Computer generated or not. If so the tooling would still be there.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Uncool.
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Rainman
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was kinda hoping that the dirtbike motor might be the basis for the next Blast ... maybe all is not lost.
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Cochise
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That anony ain't from Buell.
Care to explain yourself to me in a PM?


I'll tell you who it was, it was that doggone Sasquatch, that's who.
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Bikertrash05
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Officially it has been "shelved", so at least there is hope.
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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would be nice to know if any running bikes were actually made or were they just mock ups

If there were I doubt that it would be widley known


for now.

My 0.02$ later may be better.
the existing dirt bikes from japan and europe are quite good and bettering them will take time and resources.

That may be needed else where just now.
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Xgecko
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's too bad....but that pretty much does it for me, I've bought my last Buell for the conceivable future....KLR here I come
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Mikef5000
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Eh, I'm not into dirt bikes anyway. As far as I'm concerned, this is GREAT news. Buell isn't Honda, they don't have unlimited resources. Far better they use the resources they do have to concentrate on the one area they do better than ANYONE else: sporting STREET motorcycles.

That's pretty much my opinion too, but I've been keeping it to myself till now.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what a week....just hear ferrari has canceled the pick up truck line too.
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Sleez
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ferrari SUV;

http://www.autoblog.com/2005/02/04/a-ferrari-suv/
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You've got to believe there's a LOT more to the story than we've heard. Hopefully an Anony or Court will chime in here eventually and shed a little more light on the situation.
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Buellshyter
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crusty, look at the bright side.... Now they have more resources to dedicate to a sport touring bike : )

The difficult and costly part, developing the 1125, is already complete. Doing what they did with the XB line, adding variant models, to the 1125 is just icing on the cake.

Hmm. In talking to Erik on Saturday, he was saying he was hoping to replace a couple of the Japanese Dirt Bikes that he had on his farm with an American one

Sounds like he was the last to know. That, in and of itself, is interesting.

Would be nice to know if any running bikes were actually made or were they just mock ups

I heard a rumor that one existed but that is just hearsay.

It would have been nice to see some American iron out on the dirt track but emotions don't pay the bills. In order to build brand loyalty, Buell would have needed to field a full line of dirt bikes to fit the youngest to the oldest and THAT certainly would cost a lot of money. Furthermore, could a 450, let alone a 50cc bike be built in the U.S. and be competitively priced and remain relevant?
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Swampy
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is too bad.

I see so many transportation companies fail to achieve their full potential because of a lack of vision to expand into different markets. Being able to draw a income from different sources helps to keep the entire company healthy during market shifts.

Someone needs to read "Who Moved My Cheese" before its too late.

If HD continues in the same direction they will very soon be in the same position as Chrysler in 1974. Its like a toy company that refuses to make anything but YoYos. Sure, they have them in all the colors of the spectrum, plus some that glow in the dark, and in all different sizes but suddenly kids are playing with slinkys.


Ask your buddy Ralph
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

everyone makes a suv, but they're just tall station wagons.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the uly is the suv of the buell line up.
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mikey.....and to all that think this is great.

IMHO Dirt bikes would have eventually got Buell out of HD dealerships. Like I said several months ago.....I could never picture a dirt bike sitting side by side with a 30k cruiser. Until buell increases it's offerings we are stuck with Harley dealerships and the way they treat us.
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Soloyosh
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IMHO Dirt bikes would have eventually got Buell out of HD dealerships. Like I said several months ago.....I could never picture a dirt bike sitting side by side with a 30k cruiser. Until buell increases it's offerings we are stuck with Harley dealerships and the way they treat us.

+1

Watch the dealerships kill the 1125R

(Message edited by soloyosh on September 26, 2007)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If we see an HD dirt bike ala V-Rod, I'm gonna be pissed!
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anony was cool, my bad
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Watch the dealerships kill the 1125R

I too live in fear of the chrome-and-buttless-chaps people trying to sell ANYTHING with legitimate performance.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When the sales staff starts to make the same money on the sale of a Buell as they do with a HD motorcycle......

They wont be able to keep them on the floor....
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

My 0.02$ later may be better.
the existing dirt bikes from japan and europe are quite good and bettering them will take time and resources.




Isn't that about what it took to get into the Superbike V-Twin market?
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