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Mfell2112
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok this is my last time of asking what tires I should get. I presented this question to the sportbike newsgroup and now I am more confused.:-) I want good traction and good longevity. I don't want a track tires. I want a touring tire with some sporty characteristics. Can anybody offer me any good suggestions on what tire I could get for my Cyclone? I would love to get at least 7000 miles out of them.

Regards

Mike
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Barker
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From what you told me and my preferences:

Pilot Roads.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wanted the same thing: The most touring oriented tires I could get, while still having nice traction.

I ended up with Bridgestone Battlax BT-021's.

Here they are just shy of 3k miles:


I love them! I've never run out of grip, and they are holding up very well.

They're not going to make it near the 10k miles point I was hoping to see. But hopefully they'll make it to 7k. I'll know within the next few weeks.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I run Bridgestone BT020's on my S1W... I am getting between 7K to 8K miles per set of tires. They are ok in the twisties, but if I lived closer to the twisties I'd probably get the BT014's.
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Danny_h__jesternut
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you want touring tires you should buy a touring bike, they come as standered equiptment on those modles. Does Dunlop still make the D205's? If I rember corectly they got good ware,7k or so and stuck well too. OEM on old clones no.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

If you want touring tires you should buy a touring bike, they come as standered equiptment on those modles.




Actually I prefer to ride my BUELL thank you very much! I don't like buying 4 sets of tires over the course of one summer, so I'll try to find some touring tires for it.
Wow! That quote got under my skin.

I thought the OEM tires on the M2's were the Dunlop D208's, which had terrible wear I thought. I know I blew through mine in well under 3k miles. (with no racing)
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Metzeler Z6's are probably what you're looking for, though I've managed nearly 10K with a set of Sportec M1s a couple of times.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll not put another Dunslop on my Buells until they improve their tires....

208's 3,800 miles with thread showing
220's 4,000 miles very flat in the middle

BTW, NO burnouts or stoppies on the tires...
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 04:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I ran Bridgestones on my M2 until this year then tried Pirellis, all I can say is that I was always well satisfied with the Bridgestones but the Pirellis are a cut above, it felt much more planted & confidence inspiring.

All that said, I have to say that these are EUROPEAN market tyres, US market won't be quite the same compounds due to climatic differences.

New Buell TTs come with Pirellis & they're top notch.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 05:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been very happy running Continental Road Attacks on my M2. I ran D205's for years and thought they were fine until I got
the Conti's. The bike handles much better, way faster turn in, good stick in the turns.

I am able to corner faster and more confidently with the Conti's. Wear has been pretty good too. The Dunlops always felt a bit slippery when I was leaned over, still did it but it was a nervous thing. My buddy had the 220's on his SV and felt the same way about those tires...

Some guys on lighter bikes have gotten 10K miles out of the Conti's too. Great review on Canyon Chasers dot net. I've seen the writer ride and he can be pretty aggressive so I took his word and I bought the tires.

Rode the (XB) STT, Ss, and R for sessions on the track, they all had the Pirelli (Diablos?), they had great stick, better than my Conti's - but they are a more sport oriented tire - they probably wouldn't last nearly as long as the Conti's which have also been very comfortable on the street and have done just fine in the rain.

-Mike
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 06:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had good luck with the Metzler Z6's on my M2. I run Pirelli Scorpion Syncs now, and they are (IMHO) even better.

I'll get maybe 6k to 8k out of a rear, 10k out of a front.

You can put a 180 series tire on the M2 rear, no problem.

Do *not* get Dunlop D220's. Worst tire I ever rode.
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Aldaytona
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Metzeler Z6
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Ryker77
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Need front tire for my x1.

Does it matter if you mix brands or types of tires -front /rear? Since the front tire is what provides the stopping and corner traction.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is highly recommended not to mix brands, because they can have different profiles, and mixing profiles can have ugly results.

That said, I rode on a dunlop front and a bridgestone rear for 2k miles this summer with no problems.
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Mfell2112
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Reepicheep,

I am going to run a 180\55 ZR17 on the rear. Does the Cyclone handle like it should with that size tire on the rear? Oh and thanks for all the Cyclone info you have posted here over the years. This winter I am going to replace the oil pump gear in my ride. Oh and I am ordering the Metzelers too. Thanks for putting an end to all the confusion I have been having guys. Too many tires out there to choose from.

Regards

Mike
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I mixed the Metzlers with the dunlops (dunlop front, metzler rear). No issue. You can feel a handling difference, but the difference I could detect from the mixed tires was less then the difference I could feel between a new and used up tire, which in turn is less then the difference I can feel from going from the Dunlop "triangular" shape to the rounded metzler shape.

Thats not to say things could not go horribly wrong mixing tires, but I doubt it does often.

I also liked the metzler progressive turn in better as well, it does not flop into corners like the dunlop.

Check the drive gear by dropping the oil pump before digging too deeply, not all bikes eat 'em.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have heard the Pirelli Diablo Stradas are a good tire. No experience with them yet.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have also heard great things about the strada's... but no personal experiences.
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Dfishman
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pirelli Diablo Stradas will perform & last.I have been happy with them.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I too will not use Dunlops any longer.
The spook me.

I've switched to the Bridestones.
I was running the BT020 on the rear and a BT010 in front.
I now use the new BT021's front and back.

Great tire at a very resonable price.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2007 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never run anything less than high-performance street tires after the stock 205's started showing cords at 6,000 miles on my M2.

Most important to me is the tires breakaway characteristics at the edge of traction. I always felt like the level of traction was fairly high on the Dunlops (207's and 208's), but the breakaway behavior was sudden, with little warning. The level of traction was high enough to keep me out of trouble more than once, but the sudden breakaway bit me pretty hard eventually.

The thing I like best about the Metzeler M1's I went to is they 'telegraph' fairly well at the limit and the breakaway is more progressive when you step beyond it. The M3's I use now, are the first tires I can comfortably push the front end on and not freak out.

I've never gotten more than 6,000 miles out of any of the rear tires of the models I've mentioned, btw.
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