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Rotzaruck
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been reading now, for some time, about high sides and low sides, related to crashes. I think I have an idea, but it's more or less assumption. My '58 Webster's has high brow, and high spirited, low road and low down, no side. I went over the car, is it safe to assume, I experienced a "high side"? Do you have to go under the car to effect a "low"? If it means you go upwards first is there any specific height or distance to differentiate between high and low? If you just go slap down is that officially a low? How about a big bounce? Low high? Under the guard rail and over the cliff: a low low? If you just splat right into the side of something is that just a "side", or am I completely confused about the whole issue?
Could someone clarify this for me? I would really like to have an official legal definition. I hate admitting to being so ignorant about something so simple sounding, but where could one find a better place to share his ignorance than the BadWeB?
Rotzaruck!!!
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12r
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 04:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

High side: you lose the back end, the motorcycle slides sideways but suddenly regains traction. The momentum of the sideways movement causes the bike to rotate, throwing you off the bike.

Low side: you lose the front end and the bike falls over in the direction you were leaning.

People say they've high sided on the road but I don't believe a word of it.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HIGHSIDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKsV6a278gE

LOWSIDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJYi4_sBUiQ

FRONTSIDEaka I'm stupid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMrXkuorDUY
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Ryker77
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Front side... lol


The only one I know about is T-Bone. Damn silverback in a Camary.

Just keep the rubberside down and leave the high and low's to the books.
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Rotzaruck
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Man, I'm glad I finally asked!! I've been visualizing these things ALL wrong.
I've been wondering all this time if I was a high or low, I'm neither, guess that puts me in the
"aka stupid" crash category(but I knew that), "front side", just different kind of stupid.
Thanks guys for the education.
Rotzaruck!
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Wtcardr
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Take an MSF Basic Ridercourse or a HD Rider's Edge class. It is explained there along with a lot of other useful info
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

People say they've high sided on the road but I don't believe a word of it.

I watched my best friend on a 1976 KZ1000, in 1979, do a long slide through an up hill right hander that I thought would end in a low side, but he tried to correct it, the tires caught and launched him and flipped the bike into an extreme high sider.

He had just taken it out for the first time with $4000 worth of brand new cafe' racer stuff and wasted most of it.

Back then new tires came with "tits" from the molds still on them. We were going to stop at my place to get a razor blade to shave them off the tires. He landed 100 feet short of my driveway across the road, stuck in an embankment.
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Rainman
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Take an MSF Basic Ridercourse or a HD Rider's Edge class. It is explained there along with a lot of other useful info

I've seen a few low sides, high slides and lots of stupid in some of the classes I've taught. Sometimes they come from the Rider Coaches.}
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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This one, called the slow speed high side, really lets you see how it all develops and changes from a low side to a high side:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKsV6a278gE

The bike is way over, almost down, he's off the power, an as soon as both tires are perpendicular to the direction of the slide, it flips it right up and over.

Jack
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2007 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't forget the

BACK SIDE!!
AKA = I should learn to wheelie in private
before I go public.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMtroXrlD2s

He just can't get it up.
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