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Eubacteria
Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was attempting to change the oil for the first time on my 2000 X1 and I took the plug out of the drain tube and let it drain for awhile. Maybe 1 quart of oil drained out. I would think that it has at least 3 quarts of oil inside. I took off the filter and a little more oil came out. Most bikes I've changed the oil on have a threaded plug on the bottom of the engine and out she comes. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks.

Colin.
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Nutsnbolt
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 05:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think you're missing 2 quarts of oil.
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Paw
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 06:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like the last person to change it must have went by the Blast's manual for oil level or you are losing/using oil like crazy.
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Mbsween
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Colin,

Its not unusual to get a lot less oil than you think out of these beasts. Make sure the engine is fully warmed up, its best to change the oil after riding, not after idling.

You should be draining at least 2 quarts.

The reason the oil is drained from under the seat instead of the bottom of the engine is that you now own a dry sump engine. Oil isn't stored in the bottom of the motor, like the bikes you've owned before.

Dry sumps are usually used to decrease engines height or in racing to keep the oil where it needs to be not where gravity/inertial forces want it to go. For these privileges you pay with less than easy to check oil levels.

Early Honda 750s were dry sumps. Some more info is here


Be careful filling it, don't fill to the full line cold, you'll get a nice oil eruption under the seat if you do. Never fill more than 1/2 way up the dipstick. Then take it for a 5 mile ride and check it again.

Also use the filter from a Dyna Glide, its longer and lets you get another 1/2 quart into the system.

Have fun

Matt
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Spike
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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Also use the filter from a Dyna Glide, its longer and lets you get another 1/2 quart into the system.




Another advantage of the longer filter is that they're easier to install/remove. However, make sure the filter is on tight, the longer filter has a tendency to vibrate loose if not installed tight enough. I used to hear people say that and thought it was just a rumor, but back when I had my M2 I had one of the long filters vibrate loose while riding down the interstate on my way to Daytona. Fortunately the filter was still hanging on by a few threads, but it had pumped almost all of the oil out of the bike.
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Justin_case
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Put a hose clamp around your filter and safety wire it.
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Eubacteria
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks so much for all the information. I really appreciate it.

Colin.
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Paw
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you want a long filter for your tube Buell get the Per-form oil filter part# HD-4 it is made for the sporty motor. I make mine as tight by hand as possible, never had one back off yet. They are long enough to get a oil filter wrench on them.

(Message edited by paw on March 05, 2007)
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Chasespeed
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

K&N HP3001...

Its the ford v-8 filter, from the 5.0/5.8 and older... basically, a FL1A...

Chase
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Gearloose
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 06:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chasespeed does that filter work on a Uly too?
G.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use the longer Dyna filter too. One benefit is the length allows you poke a hole in the end and drain the filter before you change it. With the bike on the kickstand, the oil will drain and completely miss the bike. You can replace the filter without getting a drop on the floor or on the bike this way.
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