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Jamhamm
Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok left the key on all night [s1]

batt dead

options?

i have a 2amp car charger, a variable rate hobby trickle charger, a car and jumper cables...

im thinking the 2amp - how long should i leave it on there?

or just find a big hill and roll start the thing?

-sau
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2 AMP....NO!!
TRICKLE 700/800 MA....YES

BUMP IT..WHY NOT..: )


JT
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Jamhamm
Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how fast do you rekon i should be going when i try the bump

and how long do i have to ride after the bump so that she'll start again...

-sau
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GOOD ROLL, 2 GUYS PUSHING LEVEL GROUND SHOULD DO IT...POP IT IN 2ND GEAR..NOT 1ST...1/2HR SHOULD DO IT..MORE BETTER


JT
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how fast..NOT FAST, JUST ENOUGH TO TURN IT OVER


JT
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have used a 2 amp car charger to charge just enough to start the bike, but I'm with Jersey, not really a good idea.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would suggest using 5th gear.
Remember to keep your hand on that clutch!

If you're not in a hurry, I would suggest .5A for a day or so. Measure the voltage of the battery on the terminals,
make sure you don't get it above 14.5V.
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

5th?....got to try that next time.

JT
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Fullpower
Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most definitely CHARGE the battery before starting, roll starting or jump starting the bike. a few hours charging at 2 amps will in no way harm your battery, whereas the full output of the 38 amp Buell charging system will cause a great deal of unnecessary stress to battery, regulator, and all the overworked connectors along the way. it is generally a bad idea to attempt starting any vehicle with a very deeply discharged battery, in emergencies one does what is required, but if you have the luxury of time, always charge the battery as much as possible first. if you must jump start from another vehicle, always hook up the cables and allow the discharged battery to charge for ten minutes or so before cranking.
as far as push starting, the buell will will fire right up IF you have a good hot battery, and remember unless you have rewired the bike, to get ignition, you also have to run fuel pump, taillamp, and headlight, so battery must produce around 7 amps and at least 11 volts even to push start the bike, a very unlikely scenario for a deeply discharged battery.
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Jamhamm
Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

started after a few hours at 2amp

ran it for about 25 minutes [drove around, different speeds]

after getting home i let her sit for an hour

she started right up again...

here's to hoping she'll be there for me in the morning!

thanks everyone : )

think ill go buy that battery tender now...

-sau
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Iamike
Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

These type of batteries don't appreciate being left uncharged for long. They start developing a crust on their plates that will diminish their capacity. Sometimes they can be recovered by a couple of discharge/charge cycles. I would think a maximum in each way may help the process.
Several years ago I did a battery search to find info. for gell-cells at work and found a tremendous amount of good information about charge rates, storage etc.
The thing about batteries is that one can last several years and an identical one may last a month with the same use.
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