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Archive through April 05, 2006Lornce30 04-05-06  10:39 am
         

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Buellgrrrl
Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The lemon R100GS was treated the same as the others. Within the 1st 1000 miles the ignition trigger unit smoked. At 35,000 miles the transmission grenaded. After BMW took 2 months to find parts for the tranny the alternator blew. At 48,000 miles the tranny grenaded again, being out of warranty I replaced it with an '82 tranny that didn't have the missing circlip that caused the grenading. That tranny had to come out a few thousand miles later to fit the upgraded '83 and later shift kit so it doesn't get stuck in low gear. About 50,000 miles the "throwaway" starter had to be replaced and the leaking pushrod oil seals replaced. At 58,000 miles the "throwaway" driveshaft went. At almost 60,000 miles I had to take it to a dealer (2 within 20 miles, the good one I took it to 100 miles away) to have a couple cylinder stud holes helicoiled. They found the rings worn too... total bill= $750.

As you can see by my experience BMW had the bugs worked out and built a very reliable bike by the mid '80s. Then they started cutting corners, etc. By now BMW has managed to make Buell's look reliable by comparison!
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Court
Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>By now BMW has managed to make Buell's look reliable by comparison!

The current Buells are as reliable as any motorcycle currently produced.

To quote Bill Murray. . . "and dat's a fac Jack!"

Welcome to the world of Buell.

: )
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Grizzlyb
Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>By now BMW has managed to make Buell's look reliable by comparison!
And THAT is just from what side of the world your looking at it.
Don't get me started
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Lornce
Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ahh, I see what you did wrong. You see, to be happy you gotta wait til a BMW has 200k kms on it - before you buy it. Let someone else work the bugs out...

Don't mention it,
: D
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Buellgrrrl
Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lornce has a point- my '83 and '84 BMWs benefited from over a decade of debugging and were pretty much right from the factory. Then BMW put all their efforts into the K bikes and all the airhead got was dubvious high maintainece "innovations" (paralever) and cost cutting (the missing circlip that lets the tranny self destruct).

Of course by '93 BMW had a whole new boxer twin to debug. They had finally solved most of that bikes problems save obesity when they replaced it with a whole new boxer... which is now going through that same expensive debugging cycle.

Meanwhile, HD/Buell keeps building "obsolete" though pretty much debugged V-twins.
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Aldaytona
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Show me your Twins, and I'll show you my Boxers." Hans von Beemers
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Ryker77
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my fancy BMW r1100sa with fuel injection and 6 speed trans could not get above 34mpg's. Need to re-look at my dyno but it put down about 110hp and not much torque.

Compare that to me X1. 40+mpg's a regular carb and 5 speed trans. I am putting down over 110hp with alot more torque.


But this is not about which bike is better or which brand is better. It's about Buell having the perfect frame, engine, wheels, name, sound, reliabilty, power, mpgs--- We just need some wind protection and bags.

The market is there for sport-tours. There is money to be made with little investment from Buell.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ryker, I whole heartedly agree. For *VERY* little investment, Buell could have made the Uly tail fit the XB12SS, so we'd have bags... Even just the Uly windscreen and hand guards would be fine for most.

I'm really hoping they do something like this for '07.
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Ryker77
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What a relief. I am not the only one that see this. I wish I had the money to invest- I would just come up with a kit to convert any XB for better front end with tail section and removable bags.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ryker, As an owner of an S3T, and an '06 CityX, I've been enlightened to how GOOD a modern S3T could be with XB components. The Uly, IMHO, is *NOT* the replacement for the S3T.
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Jlnance
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Uly, IMHO, is *NOT* the replacement for the S3T.

Could you elaborate Steve? I've never ridden an S3T, so I don't know how they compare. The major shortcomming I see with the Uly is that it is too tall for many people to ride. I assume thats the attraction for putting the Uly tail on the SS, but I'm just guessing.

BTW, does anyone here own an SS? It seems to have been overshadowed by the Ulys release, but I've heard it's a nice bike.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jim, think of your M2 with hard bags, 1" taller bards, and MUCH better wind protection. That's what the S3 is.

What *WOULD* be ideal, is an XB12SS, A Uly tail, and a tad larger XB12R fairing. Or better yet, the Hals/Sharkskins full fairing.

If I do buy a uly in 10 months, which is the current plan, unless Buell comes out with a "real" sport touring bike. It'll most likely NEVER see a dirt road, etc... Even with the shorter seat, it's still a bit tall for my personal comfort level, and I've got a 32" inseam.
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Scooterroid
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

snip* The Uly, IMHO, is *NOT* the replacement for the S3T. *snip

I agree completely.
Glad to see this thread back on-topic.

Steve-O
(S3T owner})
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