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Phatkidwit1eye
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My buddy gave me an old record player that he had. It has the rca cables and it plugs into the back of my system just fine. The problem I'm having is I know nothing about them and I need some type of adapter for this other wire? I have to turn my system up to full power to hear anything. My buddy said I needed some sort of adapter for this wire. Hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about(cause I sure don't). Any link you can post to what I need would be very helpful. Listening to my parents old Cream record and playing "sunshine of your love" at a low level isn't cutting it. TIA...
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U4euh
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is it a small thin wire. Most of the Phongraph's,record players, will have RCA cables and a thin ground wire. If it is not grounded youget weak sound or a lot of static noise. Does you amp or head unit have an input specifically for record player? If so, there should be a screw with a grounding symbol very close by.
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Phatkidwit1eye
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No it does not have a specific ground cable. Just the rca inputs and outputs.
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Ingemar
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think your amp is not fit for low output recordplayers. It may have an input but for high output recordplayers. I believe that is the difference between MM and MC. You can buy separate phono amps that plug into any regular aux input on an amp.
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Phatkidwit1eye
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So something like this?..

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-E0Qw45yibpF/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=50500&I=585PRE60 0
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Sportyeric
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As far as I recall, turntables produce a much weaker signal than, say, a tape deck, because the signal current is generated solely by the pizeo-electric effect of the needle in the cartridge. It would have to plug into a 'turntable-specific' jack that would have an additional amplifying circuit. New amps wouldn't have that jack. As Ingemar says, you would have to buy a separate mini-amp to serve that purpose. It wouldn't need to be very much or very expensive, I wouldn't think. Try Radio Shack or some such.
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Phatkidwit1eye
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the help... There is just something about listening to 30 year old records.

I'll check with radio shack tomorrow.
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Ingemar
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, that's it.

But are they serious about 30 day warranty? That would be illegal over here, unless its used.
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Phatkidwit1eye
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 02:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dunno..It's from the Crutchfield archives and is no longer available for sale, so who knows about the warrenty. I was just using that one as an example. If I can't find one at radio shack I think I will give parts express a call. Their prices seem to be pretty fair.

(Message edited by phatkidwit1eye on June 06, 2005)
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Oldguy
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 02:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A phono cartridge puts out a very low level signal and needs a "pre-amp" to boost it to usable levels on most modern receivers. I had to replace my receiver about a year ago and ended up with an Onkyo because it was about the only affordable unit that still had a Phono input. Most receivers have eliminated the Phono input because no one has records any more. Me? I've got somewhere between 300 to 400 albums. One of these days I'm hoping to copy them onto CD.

Glenn
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Socalbueller
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know what kind of stereo or turntable you have but buying a cheap preamp for the turntable is not going to sound that good on a decent system. NAD make a good one but it's over $100.

http://www.nadelectronics.com/hifi_amplifiers/pp2_framset.htm
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Ingemar
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In the days that I was into records, we only used preams because they were better than the ones built in. But you're right, they were pricey.

In the OldGuys' case, it depends on what he wants from it all. He pointed out he got 'an old' record player. To me that sounds like just like that; an old thing that doesn't require the best of all sounds.
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Patrickh
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

former DJ here. you need a pre amp or an amp with a "phono" setting. There are some mixers out there that will serve the same function as a pre amp (in fact they sorta are pre amps) because they have "levels" on them that you can adjust. you can get a poor quality one that a DJ would laugh at but would suit your needs for $50 to $75 brand new. $30 used.
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