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Davegess
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As hte only 2CV owner On the list I must report the fery sad news, I know the big name pros teams are releaved but is is sad for the rest of us, that the only 2CV entered in this years Dakar rally has retired. They arrive at teh end of stage two after it closed and were than unable to get through stage three. The did however last longer than GameBoy Rally star Colin MacRae.
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Ingemar


Posted on Friday, January 07, 2005 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, at least it did arrive at the end of the stage. When I saw that "thing" I figured it wouldn't even make the end ...

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Mr_grumpy


Posted on Friday, January 07, 2005 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's a Rally called, Raid des Baroudeurs, which is mostly 2CV based, they go all over the place, such as the Balkans, Egypt, Libya, & it leaves from just up the road from me, 2 or 3 of the local haulage firms send a truck along for support, & some of the bosses compete as well.
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Djkaplan


Posted on Friday, January 07, 2005 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I vividly remember the duh-she-voes when I was growing up in France as an Army Brat.

I heard about the 2CV Dakar entry on NPR. Even with the DNF, it sounded like a grand adventure.
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Cataract2
Posted on Friday, January 07, 2005 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is 2CV?
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Slaughter


Posted on Friday, January 07, 2005 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's one:
http://www2.freefoto.com//images_d/29/07/29_07_4_web.jpg?&k=Citroen+2CV
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Buellkowski


Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2005 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It probably went more MPTA (miles per technological advancement) than any other entry.
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Davegess
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2005 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cataract, it is French car, a Citreon to be exact that was design just before WWII and released to the public as soon as the French were able to think about such things after that war. It is as simple as you could imagine, one of the design goals was to build an umbrella on wheels, features many clever things, has proven to be tough and reliable being made until 1990.

I happen to have one as my daily driver.
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Peter


Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 05:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ah but Dave, did you see the way Colin MacRae went out?
Bits of his car strewn all over the place...: )
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Peter


Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 05:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)




Good try....
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Peter


Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From today's Dakar updates....

13 h 30: Golden oldie
The very popular Citroen 2 CV, that stopped its route between Smara and Zouerat is also present in Atar.
George Marqués, the co-driver hopes to takes his little wonder to Dakar. And added to that he hopes to try and start again next year. With all the advertising we've had, we hope to come back with a bettered 2 CV: lighter and more adapted to the sand.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone who would see fit to drive aroung in a French car these days ought to be saddled with a heavy burden, like say being in charge of producing a calendar. : )
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Ingemar


Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Driving that car is a burden by itself. I feel for you, Dave. You brave and courageous man ...
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Buelluk
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with Dave , the 2CV is a great vehicle, seriously underrated , I enjoyed mine immensely.

It was always great fun to ask somebody who has never driven one to move it for you - Dave will understand.

My sons at the time were not too happy about it , they called it the garden shed.
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Davegess
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One of th edrivers at work drove, he has a CDL came saying "I Can't drive this thing"
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Mr_grumpy


Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 03:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are a number of racing series, both on & off road in Europe & plenty of tuning gear available too;
Another favourite mod is to put the engine from a Citroen GS in, it's an air-cooled flat 4, makes them go like hell but the handling is, how shall we say, interesting? with all that weight out the front in such a light body, they used to call them sidewinders in the UK!
The lovely thing about driving a 2CV hard is the looks you get from people when they see the gravity defying body roll through the twisties. but if you're going to do it, don't forget to strap a slider on your left elbow.
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Oldguy
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 04:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fascinating little car the 2CV. In 1969 I bought a Montesa and toured in Europe after being discharged from the Army. Had a problem and needed to transport the bike across Lausanne, Swizerland, to the train station. 2CV to the rescue - took off the rear doors and rolled the Montesa in, with wheels sticking out of each side, and as I hung on to keep it from rolling out we lurched through town.

Come to think of it - the 2CV makes more sense than trying to tour Europe on a Spanish 2-stroke enduro bike.

Thanks for the memories.

Glenn
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is one of only a very few cars that have achieved an almost mythical status. The Model T and the VW Beetle are another 2. They move you and your goods where you want to go regardless of obstacles and they do it in a very minimal manner. They are just powerful enough to get the job done but no more than that. They are just comfortable enough to be tolerable. They are simple so when they do break you can fix them by the side of the road with simple tools and simple knowledge. And, perhaps most importantly they made generations of people car owners, people who, before these cars appeared, thought such a thing was unthinkable.
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Mr_grumpy


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 06:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The design brief for the 2CV was for a vehicle that could carry anything from some bales of hay & a pig, to a family, & could drive across a plowed field with a dozen eggs in the back without breaking any!

When people are making toilet roll holders in the shape of a car, you know that vehicle has achieved iconic status as a design classic.
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Nedwreck


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow, cool car. Fit some Enkei RSF-2 wheels, lose the bumpers, drop it a couple of inches, shoehorn a well warmed B18 motor into it. Add some limited slip diferentials, some way oversized swaybars and 3-way adjustable coilovers plus some big inch discs. Wouldn't that be great? Imagine fragging some guy in his 350Z with one of those.
Gahd, I'm such a freak, sometimes.

Bob
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Davegess
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like GS motor setup Mr Grumpy suggested. Car Magazine drove a turboed one years ago, got so hot it lit the underhood insulation on fire and destroyed the car.
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Mr_grumpy


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave it's a nuts & bolts job in your garage over a weekend, easy peasy.

If you need any bits for yours that I can get in my luggage, I'll bring them for Homecoming.
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