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Roc
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know this is a Buell board but -

I’m trying to get an abandoned well operational for garden irrigation. The well is 50’ deep and it was used for a much larger area before the property was subdivided in the 50’s, so I think there is plenty of water there.

Do I need to use a submersible pump for that depth? Any recommendations for a good value pump? Any thoughts on running it with solar, it will only see use in the summer and wiring it will be a pain anyway?

Thanks
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Paulinoz
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 02:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Roc The most anything can suck is one atmsphere. approx 30 feet of water or 29.9 inch if you want to suck Mercury, therfor the only way to get water up from 50 feet is a down hole pump or submersible.
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Oneway
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 04:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

solo air pulse pump if you have access to air
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Xbduck
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 04:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Roc,
Check www.motherearthnews.com, there is an area to search past articles. I'm sure you will find something along the lines of what you want.

Sorry I couldn't give you a live link above, I haven't learned how yet.
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Xbduck
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 04:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess it did work. WOW! I did learn something tonight.
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Grndskpr
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Roc, stick to a sub pump, find a local irrigation supply house, and ask for a sub pump, then mention what your going to do with it, and they will be able to set you up.
the reason for an irigation supply house instead of say home depot, is that irrigation heads have a specific preasure requirment, to little preasure and they dont work properly, to much and you will burn them out to quickly, its hard to burn them out but it happens
The supply house will be able to match up components so they work right, and your not spending to much money on a pump thats oversized
another advantage is that most supply houses will design your system, if you spend a specific amount of money with them, and the pump should cover this, so you get the pump and a design, as well as a place to contact if you run into problems, and if you have never installed an irrigation system you will run into problems
if you have any specific questions feel free to contact me, i can give you my opinions on heads, valves, control systems, and the like
email is best
later
Roger

Before i forget, here in Chicagoland it is illegal to use these wells for irrigation or any household use, they are generally capped for a reason, and you should consider haveing the well tested for water quality, and find out why the well was abandoned
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the county/state will often test the water/well for free . . . . .specially if you go the agricultural extentions, rather than building inspector types . . .. . they are (the ag folks) really helpful, at least in Northen ILL
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Roc
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you all.

I think the well was abandon because it is located, inconveniently, next to a past kitchen expansion and by that time they had county water. The house has been through many owners and some were certainly better than others. About a month ago I dug up a 40’ section of sidewalk, I wondered if the last owners even knew it was there.

The house was originally one of two on a big orchard, now a suburb by a busy road with shopping and businesses close by – progress.

I can use the well for irrigating under an acre with no permit. It will save on water cost and also sewer, which is based on water consumption here.

Right now there are 4 hose bibs, spaced well around the yard, hooked up to a common open line the back yard. I hope I can get away with reattaching supply to that, and being done with the project. The key is to do it soon, before the chief gardener gets over her honeymoon of watering all the plants with a hose.

Grndskpr, I know enough about irrigation systems to know I would rather be working in or on the garage. Thank you for your offer.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here in France I've got a 14 metre deep well which is a bit over 40ft in old money, it usually has about 10 ft of water in it summer & winter alike. we use it for the garden & the pool with a single phase 220 volt submersible pump which does fine. but do get the water analysed we're right on the limit for nitrate level & well over on the microbiological so it's not fit to use in the house, even though it's piped up to be able to if I turn a few valves here & there, we're on metered water also but there's no gain financially when you take into account the cost of the pump & the electricity to run it, it gives you a good feeling though, & it's a good conversation piece at the bar too!
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an old single piston gas powered water pump that I use for irrigation. It draws water from about 10-15 feet, it probably would do more. We also use it to fill up a blow up pool to wash the neigborhood kids off before we bar-b-q them, we figure the fire cooks off the deadly bacteria and nitrates so we don't have to worry about it.
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 03:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We also use it to fill up a blow up pool to wash the neigborhood kids off before we bar-b-q them, Boy did I come to the wrong place!
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Fullpower
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 03:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

swampy, we have some extra kids around the 'hood.
give me your address, and i can arrange shipment.
cheers, dean
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