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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Okay, new house has a one car garage and a single wide driveway. Problem is my household has 2 cars and 3 bikes, so I'd like to add a parking space next to the driveway big enough for one car.

I got a ballpark quote from an asphalt company for $1200-1500. Ain't gonna fly at that price.

So, short of putting down just gravel, are there any other ideas out there? I've thought about concrete, but the driveway has some high and low spots, so I don't know how well level concrete would look next to a not-so-level driveway.
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20xb12s04
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've often wondered about chip seal (also called tar & chip or tar & gravel) driveways. Looks like they are possible...

http://www.askthebuilder.com/B127_All_About_Tar_an d_Chip_Driveways.shtml
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Vortec57
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Level out as much of an area as you can, set up some forms and find somewhere that you can get some "cold mix"
It's used for some temporary roads (crossovers on interstate and such, and patching asphalt) it goes in somewhat loose and the more you drive on it the harder it gets.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How many house advice threads can one have before we start charging? : )
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P_squared
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If there's any demolition in the local area, never hurts to ask if you can have the bricks.

Nice herringbone brick pad wouldn't look too shabby or cost that much if they're free.
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Rotzaruck
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just form it and order some concrete and pour it. If you haven't finished much concrete, it'll probably match your other up and downs pretty good.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1200-1500 isn't bad if that includes clearing the spot, grading the spot and putting in base rock and is paved right by pavers who know what they're doing who pay attention to detail.

1200-1500 for a bunch of gypsies who dump 2-3 tons of blacktop, rough rake it & give it one pass with a roller with no attention to the edges or how it blends in with the existing asphalt is about 1200-1500 too much.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chip seal is pretty but you'll have o have it oiled and rechipped every few years as tires have a habit of kicking up the chips over the years.

Concrete is more expensive than asphalt.

Cheapest option is clear the spot and just put in 2-3" of base rock and pack it tight.

If it's packed well enough rain water will run off base almost as well as it does asphalt.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have 2" road stone around my back patio/apron. Looks nice and doesn't track pebbles into the basement. Hard to work with(level out) and spooky to ride a cycle on.
  • not the best picture of the stuff
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

  • better shot of the size of the stuff I used
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Endoman33
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

crushed granite works well
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Bott
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crusher Run from Callanan is almost concrete-like once compressed. Even if you just rake it out and 'roll' it with the car tires.
http://www.callanan.com/
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If there's any demolition in the local area, never hurts to ask if you can have the bricks.


The problem with pavers is you will need 18 inches of crushed compacted limestone under it with 2 inches of decomposed granet.

With a car 2 inches will not cut it as stated above, hell 2 inches will not work with foot traffic you need at lest 6 to 8 depending on soil type...
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I'm going to just bite the bullet and do the asphalt. Any kind of gravel or stone is going to be a pain in the ass in the winter time.

1200-1500 isn't bad if that includes clearing the spot, grading the spot and putting in base rock and is paved right by pavers who know what they're doing who pay attention to detail.

This did include excevating, grading, laying foundation, etc. I think it also included a larger area than I really need, so that may affect the price some.

I'm going to call around and get some more estimates once I figure out exactly how many square feet of surface I'll need.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good call. That is a decent price for the asphalt. Ask the contractor what grade though. All asphalt is not created equal. The finer grained stuff is more durable. Seal it! Or lose it.
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get a bid to redo the uneven driveway while your at it... can't hurt to check.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The driveway is uneven because the ground is uneven. I can't think of how to explain it, but it's not worth fixing.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just say no to gravel. i swear when i get out of here i will not ever have gravel anything for the rest of my life
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What about those perforated concrete block things that let the grass grow through the holes? I've no idea what they're called, you lay em on a hardcore base & then fill them with loam then seed. keeps the garden looking nice for wifey & helps drainage too.
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