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Poppinsexz
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who else is going to be wearing Orange tomorrow?

While riding the Buell to work of course.
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Seanp
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will, at least in the morning. I've got a bright orange T-shirt that I wear around the house - it's not in very good shape, but it's orange. In the afternoon I am going to pick up another bike, and probably will wear something a little more presentable.

It's funny how few people know what it means to wear orange tomorrow.
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Bhillberg
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't, can you explain what it means?
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what is the significance of this
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Old_man
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you know why The Orangemen wear kilts?

They (originally) came from Scotland.

And sheep can hear zippers.
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Old_man
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Scots are cousins of the Irish.

The difference is they let the English make them their bitches.
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Tom_b
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whatever Old Man. the orange order has NOTHING to do with the scots. Being of Scottish heritage i think your being a JERK. For ignorant people like old man. The orangemen are protestants instead of Catholic. They work toward supporting protestant religion in Ireland instead of catholicism. It has been around a heck of a lot longer than the IRA or Sein Finn. They have HUGE support in Ulster. By the way old man I'm also part irish and some family was from Ulster. Wearing of orange on St.Patricks day is done to irritate the catholics in Ireland, espeially the north

(Message edited by tom_b on March 16, 2009)
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Poppinsexz
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 Nicely played Tom
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I always wear Orange and I am a bluenose go GERS!!!!!! even though we lost yesterday
PROTTY 4 life
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Tom_b
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

By the way, i will be wearing orange tomorrow. PROUDLY
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Old_man
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tom_b

You know absolutely nothing of the history.

The Orangemen were imported to Ireland from Scotland, to displace the original Irish. (stole their land)

That's why they are protestant.

You should read a little history.

And wearing orange on St. Patrick's day is nothing more than an insult.

And if you have some family from Ulster and they are protestant, they are probably descendants of the Scots not Irish.

The English conquered the Scots and they were unable to get free.

The Irish were conquered by the English, but were able to get their freedom for most of THEIR Island.

And anyone who wears orange on St. Patrick's day is the JERK.

Those who don't know the significance, I would be very careful wearing orange tomorrow.
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I spent a year at Syracuse University, '70-'71,
majored in Party 101 then Party 102.

I thought this had something to so with their athletic dept.

What do I know?

I do know what I'm gonna wear tomorrow -


Pants!
'n a shirt.
Not orange, not green... probably blue.
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Old_man
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wearing of orange on St.Patrick's day is done to irritate the catholics in Ireland
It's done to irritate the real Irish.

It would be a big mistake to try to irritate the Irish here tomorrow.
They might well get irritated.
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Tom_b
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like you just have a problem with Scots Old man.. Were the Scots planted in ireland before or after the battle of Boyne in 1690? Protestant prince orange who defeated catholic king james at the battle became king.William orange was from the Netherlands, not scotland. READ and KNOW your history old man before you slam a whole country of people. The Irish were given their indepence by the english, not by any long drawn out battles or wars. Just like Australia, Canada. The only reason Scotland hasn't is by popular vote, they wanted to remain under english rule. For a retired cop, you sure don't know much about checking facts before you speak.

(Message edited by tom_b on March 16, 2009)
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Indybuell
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go Irish! Oh, wait, we didn't make the tournament... damn it.
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Old_man
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know NOTHING of the history.
The Irish were given their indepence by the english, not by any long drawn out battles or wars. Just like Australia, Canada.
In what history book did you learn this "fact"? Absolutely ridiculous!


I know the history of Ireland.

You know nothing about it or the history of Scotland.

You know nothing of "The Clearing" in Scotland.

Before you spout off about knowing facts, you should know some.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll be wearing a black helmet. Black jacket. Black pants. Black everything.
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Tom_b
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not all REAL irish are catholic
go to northern ireland sometime and find out. Just like not all real arabs are muslim, not all real japanese buhdist. Not all real southern U.S. people are baptist
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Old_man
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A little of the true history for you. You really should read a history book.

The first major influx of Lowland Scots into Ulster came in the first two decades of the 17th century. Starting in 1609, Scots began arriving into state sponsored settlements as part of the Plantation of Ulster. This scheme was intended to confiscate all the lands of the Gaelic Irish nobility in Ulster and to settle the province with Protestant English and Scottish colonists. Under this scheme, a substantial number of Scots were settled, mostly in the south and west of Ulster, on confiscated land.
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Old_man
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not all REAL irish are catholic
True, many religions are in the Republic Of Ireland, and they exist peaceably.

The Catholics are in the majority and get along with all other religions without trying to irritate them.
Unlike the Oragemen in Ulster.

They all would find the wearing of orange on St. Patrick's day an insult to their country.
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Seanp
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wearing orange on St. Patrick's Day is simply a way to show that you're Irish and NOT Catholic. Old Man, you seem to have a big chip on your shoulder for non-Catholic Irishmen. I'm sure you'd get along famously with Gerry Adams and friends.

There's a reason that the Irish flag is green, white AND orange.
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Tom_b
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Seanp
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The first major influx of Lowland Scots into Ulster came in the first two decades of the 17th century. Starting in 1609, Scots began arriving into state sponsored settlements as part of the Plantation of Ulster. This scheme was intended to confiscate all the lands of the Gaelic Irish nobility in Ulster and to settle the province with Protestant English and Scottish colonists. Under this scheme, a substantial number of Scots were settled, mostly in the south and west of Ulster, on confiscated land.

On this point, Old_man is correct.
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Old_man
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It might be interesting for you to know that SAINT PATRICK'S CATHEDRAL, DUBLIN is a protestant church.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oddly, though, all Irishmen are drunks. : D






Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I love St. Patrick's Day!
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Tom_b
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I concede to that, after checking. Still don't quite see what that has to do with insulting the scots as a whole people and the irish protestants who are also proud of their heritage and a few centuries removed
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Old_man
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wearing orange on St. Patrick's Day is simply a way to show that you're Irish and NOT Catholic
No one interprets it that way.

Tom b gave the real reason.

Wearing of orange on St.Patrick's day is done to irritate the catholics in Ireland
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I concede to that, after checking.

That the Irish are drunks? : D



I seem to remember a gentle scottish lad named William Wallace who gave the English a time of it.
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Tom_b
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL ft bastard.
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Old_man
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am very fond of the Scots. (my cousins)
But I detest the Orangemen.
Because of the way they treated the Irish people for centuries.

It's too bad that in the early years when the English severely abused the Scots people, they were unable to kick their royal asses out of their country.

The populations of Ireland and Scotland were tiny when compared to England.
The English forces were conquering the world.
These two tiny countries were no match.

England did not give Ireland it's freedom.
The Irish took it.
Read some history.
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