| Author | Message | ||
     Bads1 |
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=35511 | ||
| Oldog |
Add them to the list with myrtle beach =) | ||
| Fresnobuell |
All that but no helmet law, brilliant. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Good thing 3/4 of the bikes down there can't get either wheel off the ground if they tried. Nothing about illegal exhaust either. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Most shocking though is the non-moving infraction for having an improperly mounted license plate. The plate must be at least 18" above the ground, be centrally located, be mounted horizontally, not vertically, be rigidly mounted, and be clearly visible from any angle behind the motorcycle. This means that plates mounted forward of the rear wheel, or on either side of the motorcycle, are in violation of the law. Basically, the plate needs to be in its original location. Also, if a plate is mounted on a pivoting hanger it is in violation of this vehicle code. The first time violation of this code is a fine of $1,141.00. The second infraction costs $2,500.00, the third costs $5,000 and loss of motorcycle license endorsement for 10 years. So.... What the hell do ya do if your bike came that way??...."Nightster" comes to mind.. | ||
| Vanvideo |
I'm really getting fed up with the Daytona PD, no offense to any LEOs. I'm actually looking at getting a Nightster. It'll cost me over a grand to ride into town on a stock bike. What kinda crap is that?? | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
This article wasn't written by authorities down there, it was written by a biker guy. Anybody have any concrete statutes or this? | ||
| Vanvideo |
Yes, improperly mounted license plates do carry that hefty penalty here in Fla. So do wheelies. According to the language of that law, a Nightster might actually be in violation, although it does state a plate has to be in it's ORIGINAL LOCATION. In a Nightster's case, it should pass - or will it? Depends on the LEO, maybe? But let me add, I have never heard of anyone being fined for that law. Not yet, anyway. (Message edited by vanvideo on February 06, 2009) | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
There's nothing about stepped up enforcement or fines for Bike week on the Daytona PD web page. | ||
| Slaughter |
Yeah - that paragraph was a PARAPHRASING of the ACTUAL law. Wonder what the ACTUAL wording is and how is it possible that ANYBODY can be surprised about "sudden" enforcing of stunting laws, loud pipes, turn signals, street racing, license plate placement? I've seen my share of really obscured license plates and keep thinking WHY would you want to call attention to yourself by the police when riding a sportbike? Nearly hiding the license plate is a GREAT way to get attention. We see a LOT of them tucked way forward in the fender liner... who is kidding who here? | ||
| B00stzx3 |
How can they make illegal to have "pivot" license plate, like Fastags. There not illegal until you use them. Wonder if they fine people for having Underglow, not turned on, but just installed. | ||
| Slaughter |
Selling is one thing, actually INSTALLING AND USING is something else. Just because somebody legally buys 4 bolts, nuts and washers doesn't necessarily make the installation legal... These arguments remind me of the arguments back when it was still possible to buy a "drop-in auto sear" for the AR-15 that (with the change in trigger group) - converted it into a full-auto/select fire machine gun. It's not on the market any longer either. Ditto the "illegal" (non EPA) Powercommander engine controls. All were sold "legally" but used "illegally." | ||
| Froggy |
Same as buying anything and using it illegally. A knife can use used to cut your dinner or to kill your spouse. Don't go suing the knife companies, or we will be forced to use sporks. | ||
| Slaughter |
Froggy - nothing would surprise me any longer. | ||
| Cudajohn |
Is it insane to think FLA is eff'ed up for not having a helmet law but having a license plate orientation law? Retards. | ||
| Teddagreek |
From I hear Florida Abate dropped the ball by the time AMA got full wind it was too late.. My personal experience with local Florida Abate people all they care about is helmets & Loud pipes.. | ||
| Thumper74 |
If a modification is legal in your home state, can they enforce it in Florida? Say... Side plates? If Harley put it on the bike from the factory and Ohio says its legal, can you get a ticket in florida? If my tint is legal in Ohio, can I get a ticket elsewhere? | ||
| Texastechx1 |
just ridiculous... | ||
| Thumper74 |
Hard financial times call for drastic measures. Remember, the police aren't making these laws. | ||
| Nevrenuf |
as the old saying goes "welcome to florida, now go the "f" home. that is,after you leave us all your money. i took my last ride over to daytona a couple years ago and will probably never go over there again. | ||
| Spdkls |
remember its all up to the discretion on the leo. i have been in a car when the cop told us that if we had lived in that paritcular state he would have sat there and made us rip the tint off my buds car. its just like the handgun law. you may have a permit in one state doesn't make legal to carry abroad. but yeah, florida doesn't make sense with any of their vehicle laws. if you read them you start laughing right away. | ||
| Paint_shaker |
The guy writing the article needs to lay off the weed..... From Florida State Statues; "316.2085 Riding on motorcycles or mopeds.-- (3) The license tag of a motorcycle or moped must be permanently affixed horizontally to the ground and may not be adjusted or capable of being flipped up." Bottom line, it must read left to right and can not be capable of being flipped up. That's it! Also, Florida DOES have a helmet law... "316.211 Equipment for motorcycle and moped riders.-- ...a person over 21 years of age may operate or ride upon a motorcycle without wearing protective headgear securely fastened upon his or her head if such person is covered by an insurance policy providing for at least $10,000 in medical benefits for injuries incurred as a result of a crash while operating or riding on a motorcycle." Bottom line, you DON'T have to wear a helmet if you can prove you have $10,000 in medical coverage. Interesting thing, a lot of riders without helmets, also DON'T have the proof of insurance... | ||
| Rich |
Helmet laws suck. | ||
| Thumper74 |
Spdkls, a CCW is something you can leave at home. I can take my gun, lock it in the box and go to Florida in my car. I'm not undoing something to my car to drive to Florida, it's God's waiting room for Chrissake. | ||
| Diablobrian |
Reading the original it sounds like someone got upset about what I would classify as "selective enforcement". The LEO that stopped him probably laid it on pretty thick, and probably spouted the old "ignorance of the law is no excuse" bit too. The fact of the matter is that many vehicles, including some Buells, have been produce with parts that were technically illegal in certain states. In the Buell case I'm referring to the red and blue windscreen that would be illegal, if installed as aftermarket. The reason? It has been claimed that headlights projected from behind the rider would be shining red or blue light from the front of the motorcycle which is illegal. I know a friend that got stopped on Palomar a few years ago for this very thing (blue screen on a gsxr). Since it is a factory item and therefore considered to have passed a DOT inspection it is legal, but you may have to go to court with pics/brochures to prove it. Not that big of a deal if you are a local, but if you are from out of state returning to defend yourself can be a pretty big hassle. I also agree that helmet LAWS suck, but you won't catch me on the road without mine. There are too many laws on the books for any civilian non-lawyer to know them all. Holding everyone responsible for knowing them is ridiculous, writing laws that are designed to generate revenue, or legislate common sense (ie helmet laws) is also ridiculous. A state and county that draw so much revenue from riders during bike week and biketoberfest would be wise to not spend as much time as they do picking on minor infractions and should instead crack down on those that are actually intentionally breaking the law by stunting on the streets, sitting at stop lights revving the hell out of their straight piped hog, dealing illegal substances and the like, but it's a lot harder to catch those guys and the guys with the minor infractions rarely run away when you ticket their bike parked on main st. |
