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Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 11:57 pm: |
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http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item= 160208390878&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:CA:1123 Plug this link into your browser. Note that it says in multiple places that there are no modifications required. The ordering instructions ask what type of bulb you are replacing, indicating that it plugs right into the original light housing. The included instructions written in a very poor English translation say to cut a 25mm hole in the back of each light housing and insert included rubber boot. The bulb just hangs off the end of the wiring harness and rattles around in the light housing. Needless to say I would not recommend you deal with these people. It's been 12 hours since I requested a full refund, but have not yet received a response. I also noted that they claim a 15% restocking fee for returns of unused kits within 7 days. I think I deserve a 100% refund including shipping back to them because they lied in print. I'm hoping they'll see it my way. Otherwise I'll have a word with ebay, paypal and my credit card company. Just wanted to let you guys know not to buy this kit. |
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Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 12:06 am: |
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Sucks man. I hope you get your money back. If you are still looking for HIDs, I use these folks: http://fanteks.net/ They sell their products through this website: http://www.texonstore.com/servlet/StoreFront I had a capsule that snapped off the base. They are sending me a new one under the one year warranty. You can also buy replacement parts and wiring harnesses if you need them. I highly recommend them. |
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Henry_the_8th
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 12:20 am: |
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Good luck.
I'm opening one of your beers, in your honor of course. Don't worry though, I will replace it. ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/thumbsup3.gif) |
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Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 12:23 am: |
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Thanks for the links Jeremy. I do want to get set up with HID's. I'll try these guys since you vouched for them. They don't require cutting light housings, right? This is "plug and play"? What did you do with the igniter boxes? I was thinking of mounting them to the inside of the fairing. I'm in the process of converting my S to the R front end and wanted to avoid the R light problem. I figured these would be a lot brighter and run a little cooler, so maybe I could keep a little reflective finish in the light housings. After spending three weeks waiting on Andy to track down two hi-beams, I'm not about to start cutting them up out of the box. I'm not too worried about not getting a refund. If they don't want to play ball, I'll just contact my credit card company with a copy of their auction page and the included instructions to point out the discrepancies. I feel pretty confident I'll get the charge reversed since they misled the public. |
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Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 12:24 am: |
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Well thanks Jason! I'll make it out to CA to share some with you soon. You still enjoying those Crossroads and Tuonos? |
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Henry_the_8th
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 12:30 am: |
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Yes, only as much as the rain is allowing though. |
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Oldog
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 03:03 am: |
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http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=47623&post=1078541#POST1078541 100$ for a bike kit, 135$ for a car, I did not have to cut the reflector / socket for the lamp, the wires and balast mounts took some fiddling. |
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Lost_in_ohio
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 09:32 am: |
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18 bucks for HID???? No big surprise that it didn't fit as advertised. You cannot buy a pair of silverstar bulb for that. There is no free lunch, the companies who produce the plug and play units have money in development and Engineering. They expect to be compensated for their work. |
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Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 11:44 am: |
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Jerry - that's why I'm not throwing a hissie fit about this. I suspected this would be some sort a gimmick. Now I know. I'm only out $68, so it's not a big deal. The guy emailed me back and retorted that I don't know what I'm talking about and to look at my light housing again. He claims the 25mm hole is for any rubber boots that may be installed behind the light housing and not the light housing itself. I guess I'll chill out until Andy can ship me the housings so I can take a closer look. I was basing my opinion of the light kit on the included instructions, which do say in very poor English to cut a 25mm hole in the back of the light housing. We'll see. Either way, we've had two other kits recommended by BWB members that we know for a fact work. I still wouldn't recommend anyone buy the kit I purchased. I'll update the string when I get the light housings and make a final determination. |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 01:03 pm: |
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The HIDS are deeper, and so stick out the back of the rubber housing. Hopefully the mount between the capsule and the reflector is a rigid bayonet mount. |
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Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 03:24 pm: |
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Just for grins I'm going to run down to the auto parts store and take a look at a H3 lightbulb and see if it looks like what I received. That is unless somebody's got a pic of a H3 bulb and/or the firebolt light housing I could look at. |
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Lost_in_ohio
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 04:40 pm: |
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The cost of the HID systems still have me setting on the side line. I have been drueling looking at all of these lighting upgrade for a couple of years. I looked at the link and saw 18 bucks. 68 with a ballast is still cheap. Maybe you can still get it to work. |
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Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 04:52 pm: |
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Mine was plug and play. The bulbs are basically the same size with the light producing portion of the capsule being right were the filament portion of the bulb is:
![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/496363/338808.jpg) If you plan on doing a dual setup on an R fairing, I would suggest that you go with the smaller Ballast/Igniter combo kit. You should call them directly: Our contact information Fanteks, Inc. 34 Ludwig St suite #1 Little Ferry, NJ 07643 Whole Sales Dept. sales@fanteks.net Phone : 201-994-0010 Fax : 201-994-0019 Internet Customer Dept. ebay@fanteks.net web site: www.texonlighting.com / www.fanteks.net I'd talk with Aiden. Tell him what you are looking for and he can hook you up. |
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Oldog
| Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 05:07 pm: |
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The HIDS are deeper, and so stick out the back of the rubber housing They just fit in the shell on the X1 the Balast and ignitor are combined in my version, the seprate ignitor ( inverter ) requires more wiring, from what I have seen. } |
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Vortec57
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 09:11 am: |
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My kit also wanted me to drill a hole. After some looking and serious contemplation I realized that it meant a hole in the rubber boot that covers everything. The bulb itself went in the factory hole just like the original, perfect fit. Aside from mounting the ballasts, and a couple of wire ends being slightly different the kit ws 98% plug and play. I should have some pics of my install by the weekend (just wrapping it up now) |
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Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 04:36 pm: |
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I drove down to a buddy's house about 85 miles away yesterday afternoon and took a look at his. I see what you mean about cutting a hole in the rubber boot covering the back of the light housing. My HID light kit does have the lip on it like what Jerry posted, but it's a little thinner and a little flimsier. I didn't want to ask my buddy to start disassembling his bike just to see if my kit plugs into his housings, but based on a cursory inspection I think I've got something that will work. I'll just have to cut a hole in the back of the rubber boot. The clip that holds the bulb in looks like it will allow a little margin for error, so I'll give it a try when Andy sends me my lights. The ballasts/igniters are pretty big in this kit, but I should be able to mount them on the inside of the fairing. I have another question; I also have the Pathblazer kit installed that flashes the lights during the daytime. I wonder how long those HIDs are going to last flashing on/off like that all day. I would prefer to keep the Pathblazer if possible for the following reason: People turning left in front of me or not seeing me in general before the Pathblazer: At least once a week Afterwards: Not once Plus when flying down the superslab during the day, people clear the left lane like I'm a freaking fire truck. |
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Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 04:54 pm: |
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I wouldn't install the modulator with your HID kit. They don't fare well being "flicked" on and off. You might use only one HID kit and leave the other with a Regular bulb with the modulator. You'll find that just having the HIDs will make a difference in visibility. |
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Mikef5000
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 06:57 pm: |
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The HID is just for you low beam correct? Set up your pathblazer kit to flash your high beam bulb, and rewire your lights so the low beam stays on with the high beam. That way you get your HID low beam, and a blinking high beam for daytime use. You DO NOT want your HID kit flashing. It will kill the bulb and ballast both VERY quickly! |
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Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 09:06 pm: |
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That's what I expected you guys to say. Thanks for the idea of running one of each, using the Pathblazer on a Halogen bulb. That's a workable solution. But then again this kit is crap anyway, so maybe I'll just run the Pathblazer on them until they fry and then get a real HID kit and uninstall the Pathblazer. |
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Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 09:13 pm: |
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The more I think about it, the more I like Mike's idea. My lights are already wired with the lowbeam on 100%. It wouldn't take much to modify the Pathblazer to only run the hibeam (Halogen Daystar). I'm assuming you guys will tell me that your HIDs are much brighter than the Halogen bulbs, so running one along with a Daystar hibeam will probably be good enough for night time riding. I seldom ride at night anyway. I mostly just wanted to be seen and try to avoid burning up the reflective coating with hot Halogen bulbs running all day. |
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Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 10:54 pm: |
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I ran the HID only much of the time and the light output will be good. Mine generates 130Watts of light at 35Watt draw. |
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Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 11:41 pm: |
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Anybody's posts not appearing? I've had this happen twice in the past two days. ANYWAY, Mike I really like your idea. I took at look at the Kisan Pathblazer and it looks like all I have to do is a one-wire bypass of the Pathblazer system for my lowbeam (HID). My lowbeam is already jumpered to the constant hot so it stays on regardless of the switch position. That way just like you said it'll flash the hibeam (Halogen) while running the lowbeam constant. At night, the Pathblazer turns itself off and I'll have both lights on 100% of the time unless I flip the switch to lowbeam which will give me just the HID. Thanks Mike and Jeremy for putting me on the path to a good solution. This also solves another problem I was mulling over. I've also got a Stebel Nautilus airhorn I've got to mount somewhere. I was going to mount it in the lower S model light bracket location on the bottom triple tree, but it would have hung down under the fairing and wouldn't have looked very good. Now I can mount it to the fairing bracket on the right side parallel to the turn indicator since I don't have to worry about fitting two igniter boxes. Cool. |
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Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 11:45 pm: |
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Refresh my memory guys...which side is the lowbeam light mounted on (left or right)? I've always ran them both in hibeam mode and don't recall what the original setup was. The S lights were dim enough that I even ran them both at night and never once had an oncoming driver flash me to turn off my hibeams. |
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Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 11:55 pm: |
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Right side next to the side of the road should be low beam. |
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Tx05xb12s
| Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 12:01 am: |
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Thanks Jeremy. Then I'll put the horn closest to traffic on the left where it belongs. I also ordered two hibeam light housings instead of one of each to hopefully get a little brighter lights. I'll just use the bracket adjustments to point the lowbeam side down a little. I so love doing these mods on my bike and working with you guys to find solutions. I had never touched a wrench in my life before I became a Buell owner. Now I actually look forward to modding and servicing almost as much as riding it. |