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M2statz
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2000 M2 with S3 fairing and gauges speedo and odometer no work. Any ideas? Thanks
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

didja check your fuses?
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M2statz
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The odometer is on but does not click off the miles. So I thought it safe to assume that not a fuse issue. But will double check.
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

fairing and gauges speedo and odometer no work

Sorry when you said that I thought the whole cluster had gone blank. If your Odo/trip is on my not clocking then you blew your speedo sensor.

A new one will run about $60 YMMV

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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Spidy Says. Its a very common problem on that era, the new part solves the root problem.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...or you may be able to get away with cleaning the sensor, if its covered with shavings. Pull it out, remove any debris, and reinstall. If that doesn't do it, you need 74402-95B, list price 54.70.
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Zenfrogmaster
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make sure you get the updated speedo sensor, part number 74431-01. It has shorter leads, a grey (not black) connector, and replaces 74402-95.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While I'm sure it will work, it does not show 74431-01 as a supersession of the 95B part. 74431-01 shows as applicable to XB/P3, and it actually supersedes to an -01B.

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Zenfrogmaster
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The older part will likely die of the same cause - Reepicheep documented a solution to the problem if you catch it before it dies. Rather than buy and modify an older part, the new part incorporates the update. I've had a 74431-01 for 20k miles in my 2001 Cyclone, after frying two 74401-95 in quick succession.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you can get a deal on the old one, we can protect it... but unless they more or less give it to you, I would just make sure you get the new part and be done with it.

I got pretty sick of building regulators : )
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Stevem123
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes the speedo sensor is powered by the same circuit that powers the injectors. Lots of noise on that circuit. Filter the power going to the speedo sensor with properly polarized diodes and a capacitor to ground and problem goes away.

BC Steve
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A 5v regulator would be a better bet (and only about $3 more parts)... or just use the updated factory part.

I doubt you could get the old speedo sensor part.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually the old part is still readily available, and what is listed as "correct" for that bike.

Good info on the new part though; I never knew it was combined with the FI circuit. Of course, both my bikes are carb and have a gear on the front wheel for the speedo!
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M2statz
Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks to all for the info!! Now all I need is service manual...Hey Ratbuell any help with that? Thanks again guys!!
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